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  1. hulkster

    hulkster Peon

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    #941
    Hulk allready proved his link has some merit in post #939.
    Hulk say also do Google search for Radio Controlled Hovercraft ;-)
    Hulk's not make "wild claims" about www.komar.org web site link efficacy.
    But evidence suggests it can do good SMASHING for non-competitive keywords.

    Hulk just disagreed with compar's comment in post #938 that link was not up long enough to assess impact.
    Hulk notice rank went from #92 to #29 right after Hulk add sleeping bags link to www.komar.org in mid-April.
    Hulk notice drop from high-20's to high-40's a week after Hulk remove link in early June.
    Hulk looking at your own data
    Hulk not so smart, but that Hulk's conclusion.

    Hulk's track record is pretty good in supporting this effort.
    But Hulk decide to take a break - maybe other Puny Humans can help out.

    BTW, Hulk say not good for Puny Humans to call him weasel.
    Hulk is Hulk! ;-)
     
    hulkster, Jul 21, 2004 IP
  2. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #942
    Was that Hulk's wife replying to Bob?

    Oh no Bob, now you have gotten yourself in really hot water! :eek:
     
    mcdar, Jul 21, 2004 IP
  3. hulkster

    hulkster Peon

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    #943
    BAH, Puny Humans try to get Hulk angry! ;-)
    "Don't get me angry - you wouldn't like me when I'm angry"
     
    hulkster, Jul 21, 2004 IP
  4. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #944
    As you can see my signature is back with the wonderful

    sleeping bags

    Hehehe :)
     
    Foxy, Jul 21, 2004 IP
  5. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #945
    Oh, I get it now, Alek. You "talk" in the third person when referring to "Hulk". I thought someone else was replying.
    So, would that be you really getting angry or the "Hulk" getting play angry?

    again, sorry for being so dense :eek:
     
    mcdar, Jul 21, 2004 IP
  6. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #946
    Hey, Foxy!

    Great to see you here again.

    Well great. It will be interesting indeed to see where the sig links will take us this time. Removing them did not stop the "plunge" so I wonder if they will give a little lift.

    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Jul 21, 2004 IP
  7. hulkster

    hulkster Peon

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    #947
    It''s the "classic" line that Bruce Banner used to say as can be seen from this google search

    I'm just sitting this one out guys - hope you aren't angry at me! ;-)
    alek
     
    hulkster, Jul 21, 2004 IP
  8. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #948
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #170 allinanchor: #4 - 07/10/2004 [2 DCs #164, 3 DCs #165, 8 DCs #169, 3 DCs #172] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #168 allinanchor: #5 - 07/13/2004 [7 DCs #169] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #170 allinanchor: #4 - 07/14/2004 [12 DCs #169] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #187 allinanchor: #6 - 07/15/2004 [6 DCs #169, 5 DCs #188, 2 DCs #203] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #188 allinanchor: #6 - 07/16/2004 [7 DCs #169, 5 DCs #190, 2 DCs #205] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #169 allinanchor: #5 - 07/17/2004 [6 DCs #166, 5 DCs #170, 2 DCs #190] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #311 allinanchor: #6 - 07/18/2004 [3 DCs #291, 3 DCs #300, 3 DCs #302, 4 DCs #309] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #316 allinanchor: #6 - 07/19/2004 [3 DCs #299, 2 DCs #308, 4 DCs #310, 2 DCs #320] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/20/2004 [3 DCs #296, 6 DCs #304, 5 DCs #314, 8 DCs #316] **27 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #314 allinanchor: #7 - 07/21/2004 [5 DCs #292, 4 DCs #303, 7 DCs #312, 1 DCs #313] **27 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/22/2004 [3 DCs #295, 3 DCs #304, 5 DCs #316, 7 DCs #317] **27 DCs are NOT responding**

    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    67 - 7/09/2004 (All datacenters)
    70 - 7/10/2004 (All datacenters)
    76 - 7/13/2004 (All datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    79 - 7/15/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    83 - 7/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

    249 - 7/09/2004
    245 - 7/10/2004
    252 - 7/13/2004
    256 - 7/14/2004
    249 - 7/15/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    238 - 7/17/2004
    235 - 7/18/2004
    230 - 7/19/2004
    234 - 7/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    231 - 7/22/2004
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

    225 - 7/09/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    203 - 7/13/2004
    206 - 7/14/2004
    214 - 7/15/2004
    218 - 7/16/2004
    200 - 7/17/2004
    192 - 7/18/2004
    172 - 7/19/2004
    160 - 7/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    164 - 7/22/2004
    __________________

    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #34 - 06/22/2004
    #33 - 06/23/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #78 - 06/25/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #74 - 06/27/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #131 - 07/05/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #137 - 07/15/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #244 - 07/18/2004
    #251 - 07/19/2004
    #246 - 07/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    PR/Backlink info

    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 113)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    49 for Digitalpoint forums
    38 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 325)
    50 of Caryl's links
    56 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    149 for Digitalpoint forums
    70 for SEO Chat forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________


    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 170)
    37 of Caryl's links
    46 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    85 for Digitalpoint forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________
    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
    __________________

    Note:Google API has page at #-9999 today
     
    mcdar, Jul 22, 2004 IP
  9. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #949
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #170 allinanchor: #4 - 07/10/2004 [2 DCs #164, 3 DCs #165, 8 DCs #169, 3 DCs #172] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #168 allinanchor: #5 - 07/13/2004 [7 DCs #169] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #170 allinanchor: #4 - 07/14/2004 [12 DCs #169] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #187 allinanchor: #6 - 07/15/2004 [6 DCs #169, 5 DCs #188, 2 DCs #203] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #188 allinanchor: #6 - 07/16/2004 [7 DCs #169, 5 DCs #190, 2 DCs #205] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #169 allinanchor: #5 - 07/17/2004 [6 DCs #166, 5 DCs #170, 2 DCs #190] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #311 allinanchor: #6 - 07/18/2004 [3 DCs #291, 3 DCs #300, 3 DCs #302, 4 DCs #309] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #316 allinanchor: #6 - 07/19/2004 [3 DCs #299, 2 DCs #308, 4 DCs #310, 2 DCs #320] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/20/2004 [3 DCs #296, 6 DCs #304, 5 DCs #314, 8 DCs #316] **27 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #314 allinanchor: #7 - 07/21/2004 [5 DCs #292, 4 DCs #303, 7 DCs #312, 1 DCs #313] **27 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/22/2004 [3 DCs #295, 3 DCs #304, 5 DCs #316, 7 DCs #317] **27 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/23/2004 [3 DCs #293, 5 DCs #308, 4 DCs #309, 6 DCs #312, 3 DCs #316] **27 DCs are NOT responding**

    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    67 - 7/09/2004 (All datacenters)
    70 - 7/10/2004 (All datacenters)
    76 - 7/13/2004 (All datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    79 - 7/15/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    83 - 7/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    85 - 7/23/2004
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

    249 - 7/09/2004
    245 - 7/10/2004
    252 - 7/13/2004
    256 - 7/14/2004
    249 - 7/15/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    238 - 7/17/2004
    235 - 7/18/2004
    230 - 7/19/2004
    234 - 7/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    231 - 7/22/2004
    600 - 7/23/2004
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

    225 - 7/09/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    203 - 7/13/2004
    206 - 7/14/2004
    214 - 7/15/2004
    218 - 7/16/2004
    200 - 7/17/2004
    192 - 7/18/2004
    172 - 7/19/2004
    160 - 7/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    164 - 7/22/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #34 - 06/22/2004
    #33 - 06/23/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #78 - 06/25/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #74 - 06/27/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #131 - 07/05/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #137 - 07/15/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #244 - 07/18/2004
    #251 - 07/19/2004
    #246 - 07/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    PR/Backlink info

    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 113)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    49 for Digitalpoint forums
    38 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 325)
    50 of Caryl's links
    56 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    149 for Digitalpoint forums
    70 for SEO Chat forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________


    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 170)
    37 of Caryl's links
    46 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    85 for Digitalpoint forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________
    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
    __________________

    Note:Google API has page at #n/a
     
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  10. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #950
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    ***27 DCs are NOT responding**

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
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    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #170 allinanchor: #4 - 07/14/2004 [12 DCs #169]**
    Postion #187 allinanchor: #6 - 07/15/2004 [6 DCs #169, 5 DCs #188, 2 DCs #203]**
    Postion #188 allinanchor: #6 - 07/16/2004 [7 DCs #169, 5 DCs #190, 2 DCs #205]**
    Postion #169 allinanchor: #5 - 07/17/2004 [6 DCs #166, 5 DCs #170, 2 DCs #190]**
    Postion #311 allinanchor: #6 - 07/18/2004 [3 DCs #291, 3 DCs #300, 3 DCs #302, 4 DCs #309]**
    Postion #316 allinanchor: #6 - 07/19/2004 [3 DCs #299, 2 DCs #308, 4 DCs #310, 2 DCs #320]**
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/20/2004 [3 DCs #296, 6 DCs #304, 5 DCs #314, 8 DCs #316]***
    Postion #314 allinanchor: #7 - 07/21/2004 [5 DCs #292, 4 DCs #303, 7 DCs #312, 1 DCs #313]***
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/22/2004 [3 DCs #295, 3 DCs #304, 5 DCs #316, 7 DCs #317]***
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/23/2004 [3 DCs #293, 5 DCs #308, 4 DCs #309, 6 DCs #312, 3 DCs #316]***
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/24/2004 [4 DCs #295, 6 DCs #308, 6 DCs #314, 3 DCs #316]***

    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    67 - 7/09/2004 (All datacenters)
    70 - 7/10/2004 (All datacenters)
    76 - 7/13/2004 (All datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    79 - 7/15/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    83 - 7/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    85 - 7/23/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

    249 - 7/09/2004
    245 - 7/10/2004
    252 - 7/13/2004
    256 - 7/14/2004
    249 - 7/15/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    238 - 7/17/2004
    235 - 7/18/2004
    230 - 7/19/2004
    234 - 7/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    231 - 7/22/2004
    600 - 7/23/2004
    606 - 7/24/2004
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

    225 - 7/09/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    203 - 7/13/2004
    206 - 7/14/2004
    214 - 7/15/2004
    218 - 7/16/2004
    200 - 7/17/2004
    192 - 7/18/2004
    172 - 7/19/2004
    160 - 7/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    164[/COLOR] - 7/22/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    169 - 7/24/2004
    __________________

    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #34 - 06/22/2004
    #33 - 06/23/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #78 - 06/25/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #74 - 06/27/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #131 - 07/05/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #137 - 07/15/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #244 - 07/18/2004
    #251 - 07/19/2004
    #246 - 07/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    PR/Backlink info

    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 113)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    49 for Digitalpoint forums
    38 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 325)
    50 of Caryl's links
    56 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    149 for Digitalpoint forums
    70 for SEO Chat forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________


    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 170)
    37 of Caryl's links
    46 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    85 for Digitalpoint forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________
    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
    __________________

    Note:Google API has page at #n/a
     

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    mcdar Peon

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    #951
    ***** PLEASE NOTE *****


    Google is CRAZY!

    Anyone who has been following this experiment has witnessed the plunges this page has taken. Some of them (plunges) we attempted to explain with loss of links, but the plunges just left us speechless.

    Well, take a deep breath!

    This morning the experiment page is these positions on the following datacenters.

    66.102.7.99 32 #32
    216.239.53.104 #32
    66.102.7.104 #32
    66.102.7.147 #32

    Here is the breakdown by datacenters:
    4 DCs #32 ,
    3 DCs #296,
    4 DCs #306,
    2 DCs #307,
    2 DCs #314,
    7 DCs #315,
    12 DCs #316

    :eek:
    I just checked again and it has now just spread to another datacenter!
    216.239.53.99 #32

    I suppose IF we were crazy too, we would have to say that this was due to the addition of Bob's and Foxy's sig links again.
    ________________________________
    Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    231 - 7/22/2004
    600 - 7/23/2004
    606 - 7/24/2004
    1510- 7/25/2004

    :confused:
     
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  12. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #952
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    ***27 DCs are NOT responding**

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #170 allinanchor: #4 - 07/14/2004 [12 DCs #169]**
    Postion #187 allinanchor: #6 - 07/15/2004 [6 DCs #169, 5 DCs #188, 2 DCs #203]**
    Postion #188 allinanchor: #6 - 07/16/2004 [7 DCs #169, 5 DCs #190, 2 DCs #205]**
    Postion #169 allinanchor: #5 - 07/17/2004 [6 DCs #166, 5 DCs #170, 2 DCs #190]**
    Postion #311 allinanchor: #6 - 07/18/2004 [3 DCs #291, 3 DCs #300, 3 DCs #302, 4 DCs #309]**
    Postion #316 allinanchor: #6 - 07/19/2004 [3 DCs #299, 2 DCs #308, 4 DCs #310, 2 DCs #320]**
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/20/2004 [3 DCs #296, 6 DCs #304, 5 DCs #314, 8 DCs #316]***
    Postion #314 allinanchor: #7 - 07/21/2004 [5 DCs #292, 4 DCs #303, 7 DCs #312, 1 DCs #313]***
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/22/2004 [3 DCs #295, 3 DCs #304, 5 DCs #316, 7 DCs #317]***
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/23/2004 [3 DCs #293, 5 DCs #308, 4 DCs #309, 6 DCs #312, 3 DCs #316]***
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/24/2004 [4 DCs #295, 6 DCs #308, 6 DCs #314, 3 DCs #316]***
    Postion #316 allinanchor: #7 - 07/25/2004 [4 DCs #32 ,3 DCs #296, 4 DCs #306, 2 DCs #307, 2 DCs #314, 7 DCs #315]***

    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    67 - 7/09/2004 (All datacenters)
    70 - 7/10/2004 (All datacenters)
    76 - 7/13/2004 (All datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    79 - 7/15/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    83 - 7/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    85 - 7/23/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

    249 - 7/09/2004
    245 - 7/10/2004
    252 - 7/13/2004
    256 - 7/14/2004
    249 - 7/15/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    238 - 7/17/2004
    235 - 7/18/2004
    230 - 7/19/2004
    234 - 7/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    231 - 7/22/2004
    600 - 7/23/2004
    606 - 7/24/2004
    1510 - 7/25/2004
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

    225 - 7/09/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    203 - 7/13/2004
    206 - 7/14/2004
    214 - 7/15/2004
    218 - 7/16/2004
    200 - 7/17/2004
    192 - 7/18/2004
    172 - 7/19/2004
    160 - 7/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    164[/COLOR] - 7/22/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    169 - 7/24/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #34 - 06/22/2004
    #33 - 06/23/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #78 - 06/25/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #74 - 06/27/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #131 - 07/05/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #137 - 07/15/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #244 - 07/18/2004
    #251 - 07/19/2004
    #246 - 07/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    PR/Backlink info

    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 113)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    49 for Digitalpoint forums
    38 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 325)
    50 of Caryl's links
    56 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    149 for Digitalpoint forums
    70 for SEO Chat forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________


    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 170)
    37 of Caryl's links
    46 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    85 for Digitalpoint forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________
    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
    __________________

    Note:Google API has page at #n/a
     

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    #953
    and some more spreading...

    216.239.53.98 #32
    66.102.7.98 #32

    Note: I quoted my previous post primarily because I did note want it to be overlooked.

    Edited Again: Now I am seeing on some other datacenters, our allinanchor falling to #8 (from #7)

    ...is some major Google Update starting?
     
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    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    Wow. Am speechless. A lot can change in 4 days.

    Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    231 - 7/22/2004
    600 - 7/23/2004
    606 - 7/24/2004
    1510- 7/25/2004
     
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    mcdar Peon

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    From complete report...

    246 - 5/08/2004
    901 - 5/09/2004 ( Looks like the sig links were picked up )
    908 - 5/10/2004 ( 18 Datacenters report 1660)
    1670 - 5/11/2004
    _____________
    Position #18 allinanchor: #7 - 05/08/2004 [2 datacenters #15] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 2 DCs
    Position #18 allinanchor: #8 - 05/09/2004 [2 datacenters #16] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 2 DCs
    Position #18 allinanchor: #8 - 05/10/2004 [5 datacenters #16] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 4 DCs
    Position #17 allinanchor: #7 - 05/11/2004 [13 datacenters #15] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 13 DCs
    _________________________________________________

    3920 - 6/8/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3990 - 6/10/2004
    4020 - 6/11/2004
    Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    ____________
    Position #28 allinanchor: #4 - 06/8/2004 [3 DCs #27] Note: Allinanchor #5 on 2 DCs **29 DCs are Not Responding**
    Position #27 allinanchor: #4 - 06/9/2004 [All DCs] **29 DCs are Not Responding**
    Position #27 allinanchor: #4 - 06/10/2004 [3 DCs #26, 4 DCs #28] **29 DCs are Not Responding**
    Position #30 allinanchor: #4 - 06/11/2004 [All DCs] **29 DCs are Not Responding**
    ____________________________________________________________

    Why did we remove these links? Cause it was hurting our position?
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    Google is watching you guys with undercover agents on forums, maybe even a double agent, you can not publicly post this data, it is ruining your experiment. :D
     
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    compar Peon

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    Has anybody seen this type of movement for any other pages today?

    Caryl, as you last posts illustrates on 05/11 the sig links looked like they were working, but a month later on 06/11 when we had over 4,000 sig links it looked like the links might be hurting.

    Did anything else change between 05/11 and 06/11 that would account for that change? Or is Google the only thing changing all this time?
     
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    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    Could it be that if you pass a threshold signature links are figured in in some negative mannner? Experiment had 4000+ signature links when they were removed.

    I was a member of this and one other forum and did not use a signature until recently. Once I put it online developed cold feet and took signature down. Am vowing to leave signature in place until next pagerank update and see what happens.

    Shannon
     
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    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    I put one back [saturday by coincidence] to see what would happen - so now we have it two ways.

    Just BTW I was looking at the Weber BBQ scenario as well and I noticed that apart from Shawn being 2+3 an advert by me was at 4 with Liquid Markets [sometimes it shows 4+5] - the only thing that is on that page is an OBL and it is run dynamically as is this forum.

    I have not added a sig link for the weber page yet.
     
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    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    ***27 DCs are NOT responding**

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #170 allinanchor: #4 - 07/14/2004 [12 DCs #169]**
    Postion #187 allinanchor: #6 - 07/15/2004 [6 DCs #169, 5 DCs #188, 2 DCs #203]**
    Postion #188 allinanchor: #6 - 07/16/2004 [7 DCs #169, 5 DCs #190, 2 DCs #205]**
    Postion #169 allinanchor: #5 - 07/17/2004 [6 DCs #166, 5 DCs #170, 2 DCs #190]**
    Postion #311 allinanchor: #6 - 07/18/2004 [3 DCs #291, 3 DCs #300, 3 DCs #302, 4 DCs #309]**
    Postion #316 allinanchor: #6 - 07/19/2004 [3 DCs #299, 2 DCs #308, 4 DCs #310, 2 DCs #320]**
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/20/2004 [3 DCs #296, 6 DCs #304, 5 DCs #314, 8 DCs #316]***
    Postion #314 allinanchor: #7 - 07/21/2004 [5 DCs #292, 4 DCs #303, 7 DCs #312, 1 DCs #313]***
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/22/2004 [3 DCs #295, 3 DCs #304, 5 DCs #316, 7 DCs #317]***
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/23/2004 [3 DCs #293, 5 DCs #308, 4 DCs #309, 6 DCs #312, 3 DCs #316]***
    Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/24/2004 [4 DCs #295, 6 DCs #308, 6 DCs #314, 3 DCs #316]***
    Postion #316 allinanchor: #7 - 07/25/2004 [4 DCs #32 ,3 DCs #296, 4 DCs #306, 2 DCs #307, 2 DCs #314, 7 DCs #315]***
    Postion #34 allinanchor: #7 - 07/26/2004 [7 DCs #34, 3 DCs #297, 5 DCs #308, 1 DCs #310, 2 DCs #314, 6 DCs #315, 1 DCs #316, 4 DCs #317, 4 DCs #318]***

    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    67 - 7/09/2004 (All datacenters)
    70 - 7/10/2004 (All datacenters)
    76 - 7/13/2004 (All datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    79 - 7/15/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    83 - 7/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    85 - 7/23/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

    249 - 7/09/2004
    245 - 7/10/2004
    252 - 7/13/2004
    256 - 7/14/2004
    249 - 7/15/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    238 - 7/17/2004
    235 - 7/18/2004
    230 - 7/19/2004
    234 - 7/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    231 - 7/22/2004
    600 - 7/23/2004
    606 - 7/24/2004
    1510 - 7/25/2004
    1930 - 7/26/2004
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

    225 - 7/09/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    203 - 7/13/2004
    206 - 7/14/2004
    214 - 7/15/2004
    218 - 7/16/2004
    200 - 7/17/2004
    192 - 7/18/2004
    172 - 7/19/2004
    160 - 7/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    164[/COLOR] - 7/22/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    169 - 7/24/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #34 - 06/22/2004
    #33 - 06/23/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #78 - 06/25/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #74 - 06/27/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #131 - 07/05/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #137 - 07/15/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #244 - 07/18/2004
    #251 - 07/19/2004
    #246 - 07/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    PR/Backlink info

    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 113)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    49 for Digitalpoint forums
    38 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 325)
    50 of Caryl's links
    56 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    149 for Digitalpoint forums
    70 for SEO Chat forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________


    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 170)
    37 of Caryl's links
    46 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    85 for Digitalpoint forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________
    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
    __________________

    Note:Google API has page at #n/a
     
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