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Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by compar, Apr 5, 2004.

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  1. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #1281
    I'd wait to see the impact of the Coop links before trowing more 'normal' links at it. Besides that point, all links are welcome of course .
     
    T0PS3O, Oct 18, 2004 IP
  2. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #1282
    I'll wait a while then...

    I'd love to see what the coop does...
     
    SEbasic, Oct 18, 2004 IP
  3. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1283
    SEbasic,

    We appreciate your offer!

    If a link from this page would be of help to you, I will be happy to exchange links right now. I am not sure that one more recip link would strongly effect our placement as we would expect the change to be with the large number we would expect from the coop.

    So, please feel free to contact me, if we can be of help to you.

    Thanks,
    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Oct 19, 2004 IP
  4. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1284
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    ***27 DCs are NOT responding**

    ****32 DCs are NOT responding**

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #24 allinanchor: #2 - 10/08/2004 [1 DC #22, 2 DCs #11, 29 DCs #24] ****
    Postion #23 allinanchor: #2 - 10/09/2004 [1 DC #21, 2 DCs #22, 29 DCs #23] ****
    Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 10/10/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
    Postion #11 allinanchor: #2 - 10/11/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
    Postion #11 allinanchor: #2 - 10/12/2004 [1 DC #10, 29 DCs #11, 2 DCs #12] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/13/2004 [2 DC #13, 28 DCs #14, 2 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/14/2004 [2 DC #13, 28 DCs #14, 2 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/15/2004 [3 DC #13, 25 DCs #14, 2 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/16/2004 [1 DC #13, 13 DCs #14, 12 DCs #15, 4 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/17/2004 [2 DC #13, 5 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 19 DCs #17, 2 DCs #18] ****
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/18/2004 [2 DC #14, 2 DCs #16, 24 DCs #17, 2 DCs #19] ****
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/19/2004 [2 DC #14, 4 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 22 DCs #17] ****
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    101 - 10/03/2004
    102 - 10/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    100 - 10/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    103 - 10/15/2004
    104 - 10/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

    3000 - 10/08/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3250 - 10/11/2004
    3390 - 10/12/2004
    3610 - 10/13/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3660 - 10/15/2004
    3740 - 10/16/2004
    3760 - 10/17/2004
    3950 - 10/18/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

    317 - 10/07/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    316 - 10/11/2004
    312 - 10/12/2004
    311 - 10/13/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    303 - 10/15/2004
    299 - 10/16/2004
    297 - 10/17/2004
    295 - 10/18/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #22 - 08/22/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #14 - 08/24/2004
    #19 - 08/26/2004
    Defunct: This search no longer relevant
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    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    165 - 10/08/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    166 - 10/10/2004
    198 - 10/11/2004
    202 - 10/13/2004
    203 - 10/14/2004
    214 - 10/15/2004
    217 - 10/17/2004
    225 - 10/18/2004
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    PR/Backlink info

    ~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    566 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
    20 of Caryl's links
    10 of Bob's Links
    9 of "August 18th" Links
    480 for Digitalpoint forums
    30 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    457 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    0 of Foxy's Links
    401 for Digitalpoint forums
    23 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    85 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
    13 of Caryl's links
    13 of Bob's Links
    0 of Foxy's Links
    20 for Digitalpoint forums
    28 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    49 for Digitalpoint forums
    38 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 325)
    50 of Caryl's links
    56 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    149 for Digitalpoint forums
    70 for SEO Chat forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________

    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 170)
    37 of Caryl's links
    46 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    85 for Digitalpoint forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________

    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
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    ~ Highest Positions Attained ~

    Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
    (No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

    Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

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    Note:Google API has page at #15
     

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  5. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    ***27 DCs are NOT responding**

    ****32 DCs are NOT responding**

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 10/10/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
    Postion #11 allinanchor: #2 - 10/11/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
    Postion #11 allinanchor: #2 - 10/12/2004 [1 DC #10, 29 DCs #11, 2 DCs #12] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/13/2004 [2 DC #13, 28 DCs #14, 2 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/14/2004 [2 DC #13, 28 DCs #14, 2 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/15/2004 [3 DC #13, 25 DCs #14, 2 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/16/2004 [1 DC #13, 13 DCs #14, 12 DCs #15, 4 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/17/2004 [2 DC #13, 5 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 19 DCs #17, 2 DCs #18] ****
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/18/2004 [2 DC #14, 2 DCs #16, 24 DCs #17, 2 DCs #19] ****
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/19/2004 [2 DC #14, 4 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 22 DCs #17] ****
    Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 10/20/2004 [6 DC #14, 3 DCs #15, 19 DCs #16, 2 DCs #17] ****
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    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    101 - 10/03/2004
    102 - 10/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    100 - 10/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    103 - 10/15/2004
    104 - 10/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

    3250 - 10/11/2004
    3390 - 10/12/2004
    3610 - 10/13/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3660 - 10/15/2004
    3740 - 10/16/2004
    3760 - 10/17/2004
    3950 - 10/18/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4080 - 10/20/2004
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

    316 - 10/11/2004
    312 - 10/12/2004
    311 - 10/13/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    303 - 10/15/2004
    299 - 10/16/2004
    297 - 10/17/2004
    295 - 10/18/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    294 - 10/20/2004
    __________________

    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #22 - 08/22/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #14 - 08/24/2004
    #19 - 08/26/2004
    Defunct: This search no longer relevant
    __________________

    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    166 - 10/10/2004
    198 - 10/11/2004
    202 - 10/13/2004
    203 - 10/14/2004
    214 - 10/15/2004
    217 - 10/17/2004
    225 - 10/18/2004
    226 - 10/20/2004
    __________________
    PR/Backlink info

    ~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    566 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
    20 of Caryl's links
    10 of Bob's Links
    9 of "August 18th" Links
    480 for Digitalpoint forums
    30 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    457 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    0 of Foxy's Links
    401 for Digitalpoint forums
    23 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    85 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
    13 of Caryl's links
    13 of Bob's Links
    0 of Foxy's Links
    20 for Digitalpoint forums
    28 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    49 for Digitalpoint forums
    38 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 325)
    50 of Caryl's links
    56 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    149 for Digitalpoint forums
    70 for SEO Chat forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________

    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 170)
    37 of Caryl's links
    46 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    85 for Digitalpoint forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________

    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
    __________________

    ~ Highest Positions Attained ~

    Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
    (No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

    Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    __________________
    Note:Google API has page at #16
     

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  6. schlottke

    schlottke Peon

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  7. Nitin M

    Nitin M White/Gray/Black Hat

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    #1287
    schlottke - please wait for caryl to give the go-ahead... I think the consensus was to wait and try not to make any changes to be able to measure the coop ad network impact in isolation.

    and ... it seems to be making a big impact ... will wait for the official posting, but it certainly looks good from my neck of the woods! :D :D :D

    <edit - added>
    It seems the network weight assigned to the site has shifted based on the site gaining new indexed pages... when I first put it in it was roughly 26k ... I noticed it edged up to 27k which I didn't think was worth mentioning. Just checked it now and it is was at 40k so I cut in half down to 20k (i.e. I put in a totally unrelated link to cut the 40k down cause I am betting the 40k is too much weight for a single KWP).
    </edit>
     
    Nitin M, Oct 20, 2004 IP
  8. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #1288
    I'm seeing that too ...a big jump up...lets see whether it stays.

    Perhaps you should have left the weighting alone ??? :)
     
    Foxy, Oct 21, 2004 IP
  9. compar

    compar Peon

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    #1289
    I'm not sure what the hell you are talking about. Are you suggesting the the coop weight is evenly distributed across the number of ads or keyword phrases you are using?

    And if this is the case does anyone know the relationship between the number of ad exposures and weight?
     
    compar, Oct 21, 2004 IP
  10. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1290
    YES, GOOD NEWS! We have made another big jump today.

    Nitin,

    Could you please explain to us.

    Thanks
     
    mcdar, Oct 21, 2004 IP
  11. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #1291
    Its a pity we cannot check the ad network...
     
    Foxy, Oct 21, 2004 IP
  12. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1292
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    ***27 DCs are NOT responding**

    ****32 DCs are NOT responding**

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 10/10/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
    Postion #11 allinanchor: #2 - 10/11/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
    Postion #11 allinanchor: #2 - 10/12/2004 [1 DC #10, 29 DCs #11, 2 DCs #12] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/13/2004 [2 DC #13, 28 DCs #14, 2 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/14/2004 [2 DC #13, 28 DCs #14, 2 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/15/2004 [3 DC #13, 25 DCs #14, 2 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/16/2004 [1 DC #13, 13 DCs #14, 12 DCs #15, 4 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/17/2004 [2 DC #13, 5 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 19 DCs #17, 2 DCs #18] ****
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/18/2004 [2 DC #14, 2 DCs #16, 24 DCs #17, 2 DCs #19] ****
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/19/2004 [2 DC #14, 4 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 22 DCs #17] ****
    Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 10/20/2004 [6 DC #14, 3 DCs #15, 19 DCs #16, 2 DCs #17] ****
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    101 - 10/03/2004
    102 - 10/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    100 - 10/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    103 - 10/15/2004
    104 - 10/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

    3250 - 10/11/2004
    3390 - 10/12/2004
    3610 - 10/13/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3660 - 10/15/2004
    3740 - 10/16/2004
    3760 - 10/17/2004
    3950 - 10/18/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4080 - 10/20/2004
    4140 - 10/21/2004
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

    316 - 10/11/2004
    312 - 10/12/2004
    311 - 10/13/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    303 - 10/15/2004
    299 - 10/16/2004
    297 - 10/17/2004
    295 - 10/18/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    294 - 10/20/2004
    289 - 10/21/2004
    __________________

    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #22 - 08/22/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #14 - 08/24/2004
    #19 - 08/26/2004
    Defunct: This search no longer relevant
    __________________

    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    198 - 10/11/2004
    202 - 10/13/2004
    203 - 10/14/2004
    214 - 10/15/2004
    217 - 10/17/2004
    225 - 10/18/2004
    226 - 10/20/2004
    234 - 10/21/2004
    __________________
    PR/Backlink info

    ~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    566 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
    20 of Caryl's links
    10 of Bob's Links
    9 of "August 18th" Links
    480 for Digitalpoint forums
    30 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    457 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    0 of Foxy's Links
    401 for Digitalpoint forums
    23 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    85 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
    13 of Caryl's links
    13 of Bob's Links
    0 of Foxy's Links
    20 for Digitalpoint forums
    28 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    49 for Digitalpoint forums
    38 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 325)
    50 of Caryl's links
    56 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    149 for Digitalpoint forums
    70 for SEO Chat forums
    1 for Alek's Link
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    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 170)
    37 of Caryl's links
    46 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    85 for Digitalpoint forums
    1 for Alek's Link
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    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
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    ~ Highest Positions Attained ~

    Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
    (No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

    Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

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    so there you have it guys - the sandbox does not exist - it's about the value of links

    well done everyone on the results
     
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    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    I guess it is like that.....so when do we get to number 1 then? :D
     
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    If the Ad network rotates links and it was the addition of those ads that boosted the experiment page, then I would say that the position would bounce around.

    We'll also have to find out from Nitin what exactly he did when he "adjusted" the ad down.
     
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    I think what Nitin was saying is that he was at a total of 26k weight, and then he jumped to 40k so he added an additional site so each would be splitting the 40k rather than all of the weight being put towards the sleeping bags KW.
     
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    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    Schlottke do proceed [let Caryl know] as I think that there is a corresponding increase in the numbers from the other sites giving a broad spread during this same period which should not be overlooked.

    Check these - todays gives an increase again to 234

    http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm
     
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    Nitin M White/Gray/Black Hat

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    Exactly. I'll go into a bit more detail for those not using the ad network...

    I had a single site in the network that had a weight of 26k. For any site you can put in upt 10 different urls and your weighting will be spread evenly across those URL's.

    Initially, I put in 2 URLs (well i URL, but 2 anchors) ... "Sleepings Bags" and "Sleeping Bag". But, as requested I got rid of "Sleeping Bag" within 24 hours I think so all 26k weighting was going to the single link of "Sleeping Bags".

    The weighting for any site will adjust as that site gains or loses pages in the index. It wasn't through any action I took but the site I used got a jump in indexed pages which equated to a jump in weighting to about 40k. I figured 20k was closer to the orginal 26k then was 40k, so added a second totally unrelated url so bring down the weighting of "Sleeping Bags" to 20k.

    Now, any impact to SERP based on the change to the ad network is going to be at least a week delayed, so none of this affects the jump to #4.

    As to someone else's q re: jumping positions based on the randomness of the ad network .... yeah, it can happen. But, for the majority of the terms I am using with the network, after an initial bounce period they fall into a position that doesn't seem to fluctuate any more than normal SERP movement.

    <edit - added>
    BTW - I don't think we're settling in at #4 ... if this tracks like my other KWP's in the network we are still going to move up over the next couple of weeks. :) 20k is a lot to throw at a single KWP ... I would say for semi-competitive KWPs similar to "Sleeping Bags" I have only been throwing 5-10k at them and getting top 5 SERP positions.
    </edit>
     
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    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    ***27 DCs are NOT responding**

    ****32 DCs are NOT responding**

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
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    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
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    Last 10 days

    Postion #11 allinanchor: #2 - 10/12/2004 [1 DC #10, 29 DCs #11, 2 DCs #12] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/13/2004 [2 DC #13, 28 DCs #14, 2 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/14/2004 [2 DC #13, 28 DCs #14, 2 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/15/2004 [3 DC #13, 25 DCs #14, 2 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/16/2004 [1 DC #13, 13 DCs #14, 12 DCs #15, 4 DCs #16] ****
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/17/2004 [2 DC #13, 5 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 19 DCs #17, 2 DCs #18] ****
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/18/2004 [2 DC #14, 2 DCs #16, 24 DCs #17, 2 DCs #19] ****
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/19/2004 [2 DC #14, 4 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 22 DCs #17] ****
    Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 10/20/2004 [6 DC #14, 3 DCs #15, 19 DCs #16, 2 DCs #17] ****
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -10/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
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    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    101 - 10/03/2004
    102 - 10/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    100 - 10/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    103 - 10/15/2004
    104 - 10/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

    3250 - 10/11/2004
    3390 - 10/12/2004
    3610 - 10/13/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3660 - 10/15/2004
    3740 - 10/16/2004
    3760 - 10/17/2004
    3950 - 10/18/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4080 - 10/20/2004
    4140 - 10/21/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

    316 - 10/11/2004
    312 - 10/12/2004
    311 - 10/13/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    303 - 10/15/2004
    299 - 10/16/2004
    297 - 10/17/2004
    295 - 10/18/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    294 - 10/20/2004
    289 - 10/21/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #22 - 08/22/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #14 - 08/24/2004
    #19 - 08/26/2004
    Defunct: This search no longer relevant
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    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    198 - 10/11/2004
    202 - 10/13/2004
    203 - 10/14/2004
    214 - 10/15/2004
    217 - 10/17/2004
    225 - 10/18/2004
    226 - 10/20/2004
    234 - 10/21/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    PR/Backlink info

    ~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    566 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
    20 of Caryl's links
    10 of Bob's Links
    9 of "August 18th" Links
    480 for Digitalpoint forums
    30 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    457 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    0 of Foxy's Links
    401 for Digitalpoint forums
    23 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    85 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
    13 of Caryl's links
    13 of Bob's Links
    0 of Foxy's Links
    20 for Digitalpoint forums
    28 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    49 for Digitalpoint forums
    38 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 325)
    50 of Caryl's links
    56 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    149 for Digitalpoint forums
    70 for SEO Chat forums
    1 for Alek's Link
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    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 170)
    37 of Caryl's links
    46 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    85 for Digitalpoint forums
    1 for Alek's Link
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    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
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    ~ Highest Positions Attained ~

    Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
    (No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

    Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    __________________
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