McDar Experiment

So Caryl, after all this work are you seeing increased traffic to the page as a result of the #4 position? Are you selling anything from the page?

An interesting question to speculate about is the quality of traffic coming from generic search versus PPC clicks. I have a page that was converting at approximately 2% for people finding it via generic search.

The other day I went out and purchased some PPC advertising. Over the last three days the PPC advertising has produced approx 2,000 additional visits to the site. But in fact my total sales for these three days has been lower than usual. I would say that the PPC user have probably had a 0% conversion rate.

I know this is a very small sample, but I've had similar results from PPC before. Anyone else had this experience?

 

same here Bob . High % of clickthrus so the ad was attractive but about 0.5% conversion

 

Then either your ad is too promising or your landing page lacks, hence not converting. You should be able to get it to 1-2% for most products/services.

You might have to bid for more targeted words as well. Depends on the CPC and CP Conversion though.

It does depend on the conversion tracking software. You probably track the last few days but it doesn't account for people coming back later and purchase.

Most of our CP Conversions are justified considering the margins. Underperforming ads get tweaked or killed.

What helped for us a lot is using negative keywords. -information and -cheap do wonders. Mentioning the price in the ad scares non-buyers away too.

 

Hi Folks,

Well we are getting a few hits now from Google searches on both "Sleeping Bag" (singular - we are #3 for that keyword) and "Sleeping Bags" (plural - we are #4 for that keyword). I could not confirm any sales from this search as of yet.

2 issues to keep in mind - Not exactly the season for sleeping bags (spring and Christmas are best) PLUS I do not see anything selling well right now.

I have even done some research on ebay sales in different categories we have sold in, in the past, and find them very anemic right now as well!

Caryl

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #11 allinanchor: #2 - 10/12/2004 [1 DC #10, 29 DCs #11, 2 DCs #12] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/13/2004 [2 DC #13, 28 DCs #14, 2 DCs #16] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/14/2004 [2 DC #13, 28 DCs #14, 2 DCs #16] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/15/2004 [3 DC #13, 25 DCs #14, 2 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/16/2004 [1 DC #13, 13 DCs #14, 12 DCs #15, 4 DCs #16] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/17/2004 [2 DC #13, 5 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 19 DCs #17, 2 DCs #18] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/18/2004 [2 DC #14, 2 DCs #16, 24 DCs #17, 2 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/19/2004 [2 DC #14, 4 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 22 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 10/20/2004 [6 DC #14, 3 DCs #15, 19 DCs #16, 2 DCs #17] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -10/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 -10/23/2004 [1 DC #14, 25 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 2 DCs #17] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

101 - 10/03/2004
102 - 10/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
100 - 10/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
103 - 10/15/2004
104 - 10/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3610 - 10/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3660 - 10/15/2004
3740 - 10/16/2004
3760 - 10/17/2004
3950 - 10/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4080 - 10/20/2004
4140 - 10/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4230 - 10/23/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

311 - 10/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
303 - 10/15/2004
299 - 10/16/2004
297 - 10/17/2004
295 - 10/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
294 - 10/20/2004
289 - 10/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
294 - 10/23/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

202 - 10/13/2004
203 - 10/14/2004
214 - 10/15/2004
217 - 10/17/2004
225 - 10/18/2004
226 - 10/20/2004
234 - 10/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
235 - 10/23/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #15

 

But of course Google isn't broken. It gives perfectly structured SERP results every day. Obviously 11 pages that are more relevant than the test page came online overnight. Because Google never makes a mistake.

Boy I'm glad the people on this forum straightened me out over this one. I might have gone around actually thinking that Google was fucked up.

 

Hi Bob,

Yes, it is "crazy making" to watch the page bounce around! People have resisted the idea that Google is "broken" or is making constant changes to their search engine for months now.

I have just given up posting anything about it!

Speaking of giving up posting...
Due to the recent forum changes, it is now become a toss-up to me, whether to respond to a post or to post the daily results. I can no longer do both. So I guess my posting to this forum will be limited.

Now - if someone will post something after me, even nonsense drivel, I will be able to post today's results!

Caryl

 

blah blah this is fun, let's see the results...

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/14/2004 [2 DC #13, 28 DCs #14, 2 DCs #16] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/15/2004 [3 DC #13, 25 DCs #14, 2 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/16/2004 [1 DC #13, 13 DCs #14, 12 DCs #15, 4 DCs #16] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/17/2004 [2 DC #13, 5 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 19 DCs #17, 2 DCs #18] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/18/2004 [2 DC #14, 2 DCs #16, 24 DCs #17, 2 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/19/2004 [2 DC #14, 4 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 22 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 10/20/2004 [6 DC #14, 3 DCs #15, 19 DCs #16, 2 DCs #17] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -10/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 -10/23/2004 [1 DC #14, 25 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 2 DCs #17] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 -10/24/2004 [28 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

101 - 10/03/2004
102 - 10/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
100 - 10/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
103 - 10/15/2004
104 - 10/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3610 - 10/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3660 - 10/15/2004
3740 - 10/16/2004
3760 - 10/17/2004
3950 - 10/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4080 - 10/20/2004
4140 - 10/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4230 - 10/23/2004
4240 - 10/24/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

311 - 10/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
303 - 10/15/2004
299 - 10/16/2004
297 - 10/17/2004
295 - 10/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
294 - 10/20/2004
289 - 10/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
294 - 10/23/2004
190 - 10/24/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

202 - 10/13/2004
203 - 10/14/2004
214 - 10/15/2004
217 - 10/17/2004
225 - 10/18/2004
226 - 10/20/2004
234 - 10/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
235 - 10/23/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #15

 

I find that a bit of a stupid rule. Some times there are two ideas in a post and it makes sense to break then up for a reply. Also if you post something and then have one more brillant idea. You have to wait around for someone else to post before you can send. And that also breaks up the continuity.

 

Suddenly this forum is becoming frustrating - what is going on?

We get changes, like this, that are against what was already in place and make it difficult and not free flowing, a negative change IMHO, but we do not get changes in the policy of anything goes however distasteful that may be!

 

I have used this tool and found it to be quite useful as well. I also like Mcdars tool as well but I have been using this one of late.

http://wm-community.com/members/tools/dance/keyrankg.php

 

Do you mean you think this [the one you list here] is a great tool?

Which planet are you on?

This is the only relevant one for what that tool does - showing positions etc:

http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/keywords/

and Mcdars TOOLS [plural] for the rest -

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/14/2004 [2 DC #13, 28 DCs #14, 2 DCs #16] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/15/2004 [3 DC #13, 25 DCs #14, 2 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/16/2004 [1 DC #13, 13 DCs #14, 12 DCs #15, 4 DCs #16] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/17/2004 [2 DC #13, 5 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 19 DCs #17, 2 DCs #18] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/18/2004 [2 DC #14, 2 DCs #16, 24 DCs #17, 2 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/19/2004 [2 DC #14, 4 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 22 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 10/20/2004 [6 DC #14, 3 DCs #15, 19 DCs #16, 2 DCs #17] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -10/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 -10/23/2004 [1 DC #14, 25 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 2 DCs #17] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 -10/24/2004 [28 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 -10/25/2004 [28 DCs #14, 2 DCs #15] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

101 - 10/03/2004
102 - 10/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
100 - 10/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
103 - 10/15/2004
104 - 10/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3660 - 10/15/2004
3740 - 10/16/2004
3760 - 10/17/2004
3950 - 10/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4080 - 10/20/2004
4140 - 10/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4230 - 10/23/2004
4240 - 10/24/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

303 - 10/15/2004
299 - 10/16/2004
297 - 10/17/2004
295 - 10/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
294 - 10/20/2004
289 - 10/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
294 - 10/23/2004
190 - 10/24/2004
293 - 10/25/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

202 - 10/13/2004
203 - 10/14/2004
214 - 10/15/2004
217 - 10/17/2004
225 - 10/18/2004
226 - 10/20/2004
234 - 10/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
235 - 10/23/2004
207 - 10/25/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #15

 

OK -- you can post again Caryl......this could be real tedious

 

That's not quite true Foxy in that Shawn's tool only show placement if it is 200 or higher.

 

I have used both tools you mentioned and do like them both, but I also used the tool I mentioned and liked it as well. As for Shawns tool, I tried to use it a few weeks ago after not using it for about 45 days and the ranking tool didnt work. I had no keywords in place that I spent forever placing, so I just gave up on it, but I did like it when I could use it.

The data from all the tools mentioned help me anyway to plan a course of attack. I in no way was suggesting that any of those tools were bad or better then the next.

 

uhm,

I know this threat is going on for a while because I saw it before. But I had my doubts about the topic and therefore didnt really reply.

What I miss is:
You talk about pagerank, backlinks, and anchor text. All nice and good but howcome none of you really talk about content?

Am I naive to think that google has a lot of value to the content?

I know anchor text is important, I know miserable failure was George Bush in Google and I read many dutch weblogs where they did tricks like that, but still.

I redid a website for a client, and only changed 3 things:
1. - I made a link on each page, linking to another, somewhere on the page with good anchor text.
2. - I changed the title of each page to 2 search words (different per page)
3. - I used the same search words 3 times in the text of the page, and at least in 1 bold line and description for an image.

My client is top 10 on 20 of his search terms now. He is quite satisfied with it. I didnt do a single extra extern backlink, nor did his PR raise. Still his site changed quite a lot.

I see many webdesign websites that have their keywords in EACH TITLE on their site and somehow got the idea this is very bad

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
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Last 10 days

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 10/16/2004 [1 DC #13, 13 DCs #14, 12 DCs #15, 4 DCs #16] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/17/2004 [2 DC #13, 5 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 19 DCs #17, 2 DCs #18] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/18/2004 [2 DC #14, 2 DCs #16, 24 DCs #17, 2 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 10/19/2004 [2 DC #14, 4 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 22 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 10/20/2004 [6 DC #14, 3 DCs #15, 19 DCs #16, 2 DCs #17] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -10/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 -10/23/2004 [1 DC #14, 25 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16, 2 DCs #17] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 -10/24/2004 [28 DCs #15, 2 DCs #16] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 -10/25/2004 [28 DCs #14, 2 DCs #15] ****
Postion #13 allinanchor: #2 -10/26/2004 [28 DCs #13, 2 DCs #14] ****
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note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

101 - 10/03/2004
102 - 10/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
100 - 10/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
103 - 10/15/2004
104 - 10/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
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note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3740 - 10/16/2004
3760 - 10/17/2004
3950 - 10/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4080 - 10/20/2004
4140 - 10/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4230 - 10/23/2004
4240 - 10/24/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4030 - 10/26/2004
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Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

299 - 10/16/2004
297 - 10/17/2004
295 - 10/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
294 - 10/20/2004
289 - 10/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
294 - 10/23/2004
190 - 10/24/2004
293 - 10/25/2004
289 - 10/26/2004
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"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
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*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

214 - 10/15/2004
217 - 10/17/2004
225 - 10/18/2004
226 - 10/20/2004
234 - 10/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
235 - 10/23/2004
207 - 10/25/2004
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PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
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~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
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~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
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~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
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~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
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~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
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~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
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~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

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Guess we have to bump to ensure Caryl can re-post...

Not much to really say ... will be interesting to watch. I had a similar drop on a couple of my KWP's in the coop (but not with the vast majority) and then they recovered ... so, let's see what happens...