McDar Experiment

Over 3,000 sig links have finally disappeared and no change in the SERP. Interesting that it has taken 9 days for the DP links to largely disappear, but no update on SEOChat yet at all.

 

Yes, Bob -

However, it seems that the kink network has kicked in at this point. With today's new backlink update the page is now showing 3530 backlinks!!!! Up from a mere 469 in the previous update.

Today being Thanksgiving here is the US, I do not have time to go into this further at this time - I'm cooking .

Happy Thanksgiving all !!!



Caryl

 

Mine went up to 3400 with the Coop.
There are few other links pointing to the site without the Coop involved.

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #2 allinanchor: #2 -11/16/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #3 allinanchor: #2 -11/17/2004 [1 DCs #2, 29 DCs #3] ****
Postion #3 allinanchor: #2 -11/18/2004 [2 DCs #2, 28 DCs #3] ****
Postion #3 allinanchor: #2 -11/19/2004 [2 DCs #2, 28 DCs #3] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/20/2004 [4 DCs #3, 26 DCs #4] ****
Postion #5 allinanchor: #2 -11/21/2004 [4 DCs #4, 26 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/23/2004 [24 DCs #4, 6 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/24/2004 [27 DCs #4, 3 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/26/2004 [28 DCs #4, 2 DCs #5] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

105 - 11/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
110 - 11/09/2004
109 - 11/10/2004
114 - 11/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
112 - 11/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

4330 - 11/16/2004
4430 - 11/17/2004
4330 - 11/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4200 - 11/20/2004
4130 - 11/21/2004
3510 - 11/22/2004
4060 - 11/23/2004
4050 - 11/24/2004
682 - 11/25/2004
3400 - 11/26/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

792 - 11/16/2004
794 - 11/17/2004
785 - 11/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
778 - 11/20/2004
771 - 11/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
774 - 11/24/2004
771 - 11/25/2004
766 - 11/26/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

369 - 11/10/2004
403 - 11/11/2004
403 - 11/12/2004
415 - 11/13/2004
422 - 11/14/2004
428 - 11/21/2004
421 - 11/25/2004
420 - 11/26/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #2 allinanchor: #2 - 10/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #4

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #3 allinanchor: #2 -11/17/2004 [1 DCs #2, 29 DCs #3] ****
Postion #3 allinanchor: #2 -11/18/2004 [2 DCs #2, 28 DCs #3] ****
Postion #3 allinanchor: #2 -11/19/2004 [2 DCs #2, 28 DCs #3] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/20/2004 [4 DCs #3, 26 DCs #4] ****
Postion #5 allinanchor: #2 -11/21/2004 [4 DCs #4, 26 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/23/2004 [24 DCs #4, 6 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/24/2004 [27 DCs #4, 3 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/26/2004 [28 DCs #4, 2 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/27/2004 [24 DCs #4, 6 DCs #5] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

105 - 11/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
110 - 11/09/2004
109 - 11/10/2004
114 - 11/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
112 - 11/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

4430 - 11/17/2004
4330 - 11/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4200 - 11/20/2004
4130 - 11/21/2004
3510 - 11/22/2004
4060 - 11/23/2004
4050 - 11/24/2004
682 - 11/25/2004
3400 - 11/26/2004
3250 - 11/27/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

794 - 11/17/2004
785 - 11/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
778 - 11/20/2004
771 - 11/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
774 - 11/24/2004
771 - 11/25/2004
766 - 11/26/2004
756 - 11/27/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

369 - 11/10/2004
403 - 11/11/2004
403 - 11/12/2004
415 - 11/13/2004
422 - 11/14/2004
428 - 11/21/2004
421 - 11/25/2004
420 - 11/26/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #2 allinanchor: #2 - 10/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #4

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #3 allinanchor: #2 -11/18/2004 [2 DCs #2, 28 DCs #3] ****
Postion #3 allinanchor: #2 -11/19/2004 [2 DCs #2, 28 DCs #3] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/20/2004 [4 DCs #3, 26 DCs #4] ****
Postion #5 allinanchor: #2 -11/21/2004 [4 DCs #4, 26 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/23/2004 [24 DCs #4, 6 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/24/2004 [27 DCs #4, 3 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/26/2004 [28 DCs #4, 2 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/27/2004 [24 DCs #4, 6 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/28/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

105 - 11/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
110 - 11/09/2004
109 - 11/10/2004
114 - 11/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
112 - 11/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

4330 - 11/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4200 - 11/20/2004
4130 - 11/21/2004
3510 - 11/22/2004
4060 - 11/23/2004
4050 - 11/24/2004
682 - 11/25/2004
3400 - 11/26/2004
3250 - 11/27/2004
3100 - 11/28/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

785 - 11/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
778 - 11/20/2004
771 - 11/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
774 - 11/24/2004
771 - 11/25/2004
766 - 11/26/2004
756 - 11/27/2004
746 - 11/28/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

369 - 11/10/2004
403 - 11/11/2004
403 - 11/12/2004
415 - 11/13/2004
422 - 11/14/2004
428 - 11/21/2004
421 - 11/25/2004
420 - 11/26/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #2 allinanchor: #2 - 10/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #4

 

So has anybody a plausible explanation for what is going on with the signature links?

 

I still can't get my head around the implementation of filtering out sig links. If they do that then they must filter out all forum links, not just a signature. I can't see how they would go round checking the HTML of all these different foras and look for the sig code.

The filtering has to be triggered by something. Easy to filter if the filename is contains showthread or the domain string contains forum(s) or post. I can't see they would make the effort of checking each link whether they are sig links or not.

 

Bob it could be the Google dupe content filter that Shawn has talked about recently. Apparently (and I've seen this happen with some sites) the pages show as just the page title with no description when doing a site:domain search then they are dropped from the index. It used to be thought that those entires in the index just meant that the pages were unavailable at the last spidering but it would now seem it shows pages on their way out of the index. It is certainly feasible that Google will see some of the anchor text experiment posts as dupe content as is consequently gradually pruning them from the index. There is some anecdotal evidence to support this in the ad network forum as members report their network weight plummeting (mainly from forum and directory sites). Doing a site: search on their sites reveals only a few pages with a description and these are the ones that count.

If it is a dupe content filter in action it will help level out the playing field a little and help put an end to sites using tens of thousands of backlinks from spammy directory pages to get a first page SE entry.

Mick

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #3 allinanchor: #2 -11/19/2004 [2 DCs #2, 28 DCs #3] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/20/2004 [4 DCs #3, 26 DCs #4] ****
Postion #5 allinanchor: #2 -11/21/2004 [4 DCs #4, 26 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/23/2004 [24 DCs #4, 6 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/24/2004 [27 DCs #4, 3 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/26/2004 [28 DCs #4, 2 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/27/2004 [24 DCs #4, 6 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/28/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/29/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

105 - 11/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
110 - 11/09/2004
109 - 11/10/2004
114 - 11/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
112 - 11/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

4330 - 11/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4200 - 11/20/2004
4130 - 11/21/2004
3510 - 11/22/2004
4060 - 11/23/2004
4050 - 11/24/2004
682 - 11/25/2004
3400 - 11/26/2004
3250 - 11/27/2004
3100 - 11/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

785 - 11/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
778 - 11/20/2004
771 - 11/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
774 - 11/24/2004
771 - 11/25/2004
766 - 11/26/2004
756 - 11/27/2004
746 - 11/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

369 - 11/10/2004
403 - 11/11/2004
403 - 11/12/2004
415 - 11/13/2004
422 - 11/14/2004
428 - 11/21/2004
421 - 11/25/2004
420 - 11/26/2004
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PR/Backlink info

~ November 25 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
3530 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 901 of 981)

170 for Digitalpoint forums
12 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ October 27 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
469 Backlinks
___________

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
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~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #2 allinanchor: #2 - 10/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

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Note:Google API has page at #4

 

2 things on the sig link thingy.

a) In general, you are voting for yourself - and this is not what google intended - they want votes from other sites to yours.

b) certainly with VB, the code goes something like this :

<!-- message, attachments, sig -->



<!-- message -->
<div>message goes in here</div>

<!-- / message -->




<!-- sig -->
<div>
__________________<br />

which is probably easy to filter out

Maybe someone could try a global replace on <!--sig--> to a space and see what happens (but I suspect it's more complicated than that)

 

Here is totally off-the-wall theory. Many of the forums have been talking about a duplicate filter and pages dropping off. If Google has this capability, it not that far out to think that Google could implement something similar for links.

For example, blahblah | Text Link | blahblah. Google could be looking at the surrounding text around the link to see if there is a duplicate pattern. It would easily filter out most forum signature links and most duplicate link directories / farms.

 

Not totally off the wall - see four posts ago. I think it is unlikely that Google have a specific sig link filter otherwise all sig links would disappear from the backlinks results - they wouldn't just target individual pages. Doing a site:dpforums +sleeping bags shows many 'Supplemental Results'. Shawn has stated (this thread) that these are in process of being dropped from the index as they have not been crawled for a few months. I've seen this happen on sites small enough to be able to notice which pages have been dropped. It is not inconceivable that 100 or so of these results are being dropped each day.

Mick

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/20/2004 [4 DCs #3, 26 DCs #4] ****
Postion #5 allinanchor: #2 -11/21/2004 [4 DCs #4, 26 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/23/2004 [24 DCs #4, 6 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/24/2004 [27 DCs #4, 3 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/26/2004 [28 DCs #4, 2 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/27/2004 [24 DCs #4, 6 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/28/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/29/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #5 allinanchor: #2 -11/30/2004 [28 DCs #5, 2 DCs #6] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

105 - 11/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
110 - 11/09/2004
109 - 11/10/2004
114 - 11/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
112 - 11/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

4200 - 11/20/2004
4130 - 11/21/2004
3510 - 11/22/2004
4060 - 11/23/2004
4050 - 11/24/2004
682 - 11/25/2004
3400 - 11/26/2004
3250 - 11/27/2004
3100 - 11/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3110 - 11/30/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

778 - 11/20/2004
771 - 11/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
774 - 11/24/2004
771 - 11/25/2004
766 - 11/26/2004
756 - 11/27/2004
746 - 11/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
747 - 11/30/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

369 - 11/10/2004
403 - 11/11/2004
403 - 11/12/2004
415 - 11/13/2004
422 - 11/14/2004
428 - 11/21/2004
421 - 11/25/2004
420 - 11/26/2004
710 - 11/30/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ November 25 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
3530 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 901 of 981)

170 for Digitalpoint forums
12 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ October 27 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
469 Backlinks
___________

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #2 allinanchor: #2 - 10/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #5

 

They were at 5 on the 21st

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #5 allinanchor: #2 -11/21/2004 [4 DCs #4, 26 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/23/2004 [24 DCs #4, 6 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/24/2004 [27 DCs #4, 3 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/26/2004 [28 DCs #4, 2 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/27/2004 [24 DCs #4, 6 DCs #5] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/28/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -11/29/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #5 allinanchor: #2 -11/30/2004 [28 DCs #5, 2 DCs #6] ****
Postion #5 allinanchor: #2 -12/01/2004 [27 DCs #5, 3 DCs #6] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

105 - 11/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
110 - 11/09/2004
109 - 11/10/2004
114 - 11/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
112 - 11/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

4130 - 11/21/2004
3510 - 11/22/2004
4060 - 11/23/2004
4050 - 11/24/2004
682 - 11/25/2004
3400 - 11/26/2004
3250 - 11/27/2004
3100 - 11/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3110 - 11/30/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

771 - 11/21/2004
Unchanged from previous date
774 - 11/24/2004
771 - 11/25/2004
766 - 11/26/2004
756 - 11/27/2004
746 - 11/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
742 - 11/30/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

403 - 11/11/2004
403 - 11/12/2004
415 - 11/13/2004
422 - 11/14/2004
428 - 11/21/2004
421 - 11/25/2004
420 - 11/26/2004
710 - 11/29/2004
737 - 11/30/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ November 25 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
3530 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 901 of 981)

170 for Digitalpoint forums
12 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ October 27 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
469 Backlinks
___________

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

Postion #2 allinanchor: #2 - 10/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #5

 

Links still growing. Interesting.