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McDar Experiment

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by compar, Apr 5, 2004.

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  1. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1501
    Hi Patient,

    This is an interesting proposition!

    However, I am still on my 1st cup of coffee so give me a chance to think this over. - timing is my main concern.

    I would like to hear input from others in the mean time.

    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Dec 15, 2004 IP
  2. Patient

    Patient Raider

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    #1502
    Hi Caryl

    I agree that others should provide input first. The neat thing about this sequence of tests is that a number of opinions have been invaluable in keeping everything on track and minimising mistakes.
     
    Patient, Dec 15, 2004 IP
  3. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #1503
    Being the trooper who checks the records of what each domain is showing by eg

    site:www.dailywhopper.com +sleeping bags

    I might find 100+ domains a little taxing - however I am willing to give it a whirl so long as I can call on some help if need be.

    I don't see any conflict with this and the fact that the links have doubled off the sites already listed as donations and the potential movement that should have occurred from that doubling. :)

    Let me know what you think guys
     
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  4. Patient

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    #1504
    Hi Foxy

    I have access to an automated tool that can run a query in g to check whether the 100+ pages are indexed with the link text present.
     
    Patient, Dec 15, 2004 IP
  5. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    Foxy, Dec 15, 2004 IP
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    #1506
    So shall I go ahead and add the links? This would be risking the wrath of Compar would it not!
     
    Patient, Dec 15, 2004 IP
  7. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #1507
    Compar hasn't replied so I guess it should be OK - not speaking for him you understand.

    You should know that I put back the two signature links recently as it appeared that Google had stopped pissing around with them - and they are working ie making differences.

    The weber page one has jumped back into the rankings [albeit after fixing a small non appearance problem - it wasn't there (only a week or so)! - pointed out to me by rvarcher, thankyou] but more importantly the weber page [different] that was on another site has dropped out. They have swopped.

    Now this is the same as another KW phrase on another site that I reported here

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=6364

    My conclusion is that this is not about the Java but about the linking - these sites cross link directly, without a three way tie, and it seems to show that where there is the same KW Google is selecting one site and not the other - all these sites are on different IPs, and that in this instance the sig link has added weight.
     
    Foxy, Dec 17, 2004 IP
  8. Patient

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    #1508
    OK I have added the link to the system and they will be come online over the next 24 hours.

    I will start reporting when the first one is indexed and cached by big G.

    To whom shall I send the report?

    Foxy - it sounds like you are a convert to "sig links work". Do you still have any reservations or are you thoroughly convinced?
     
    Patient, Dec 17, 2004 IP
  9. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #1509
    Report to McDar

    Sig links - I was one of those who "saw" a detrimental effect - and so I took them off - but it was Compar who pointed out just recently that Google seemed to be pissing about with them and it appeared to be that they were working again - and so I put the two below back on with the result that shows they are - I should mention also that it was this non-competitive sig link that showed me the opposite a little while back. :)
     
    Foxy, Dec 17, 2004 IP
  10. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1510
    What info is going to be reported to me????

    Patient,

    Are you saying that you are adding links to this experiment from 100 different urls but the 100 urls are all at one IP address?

    Please clarify and PM me with a couple of the urls so I can chaeck them out.

    Thanks,
    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Dec 17, 2004 IP
  11. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1511
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    ***27 DCs are NOT responding**
    ****32 DCs are NOT responding**
    *****36 DCs are NOT responding**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #9 allinanchor: #2 -12/07/2004 [20 DCs #9, 4 DCs #10] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/08/2004 [All Datacenters] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/09/2004 [22 DCs #10, 2 DC #6] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/10/2004 [22 DCs #10, 2 DC #6] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/11/2004 [22 DCs #10, 2 DC #6] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/12/2004 [22 DCs #10, 2 DC #6] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/13/2004 [All Datacenters] *****
    Postion #9 allinanchor: #2 -12/14/2004 [All Datacenters] *****
    Postion #9 allinanchor: #2 -12/15/2004 [All Datacenters] *****
    Postion #9 allinanchor: #2 -12/16/2004 [18 DCs #9, 6 DC #10] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/17/2004 [2 DCs #9, 22 DC #10] *****
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    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    105 - 11/05/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    110 - 11/09/2004
    109 - 11/10/2004
    114 - 11/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    112 - 11/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    682 - 11/25/2004
    3400 - 11/26/2004
    3250 - 11/27/2004
    3100 - 11/28/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3110 - 11/30/2004
    3100 - 12/09/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3290 - 12/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4280 - 12/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    771 - 11/21/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    774 - 11/24/2004
    771 - 11/25/2004
    766 - 11/26/2004
    756 - 11/27/2004
    746 - 11/28/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    747 - 11/30/2004
    742 - 12/01/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    783 - 12/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #22 - 08/22/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #14 - 08/24/2004
    #19 - 08/26/2004
    Defunct: This search no longer relevant
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    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    428 - 11/21/2004
    421 - 11/25/2004
    420 - 11/26/2004
    710 - 11/29/2004
    737 - 11/30/2004
    747 - 12/04/2004
    761 - 12/08/2004
    797 - 12/10/2004
    824 - 12/15/2004
    838 - 12/17/2004
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    PR/Backlink info

    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 153 of 155)
    19 for Caryl
    16 for Bob
    65 for Foxy
    28 for Others
    14 for Digitalpoint forums
    9 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ November 25 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    3530 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 901 of 981)

    170 for Digitalpoint forums
    12 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ October 27 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    469 Backlinks
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    ~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    566 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
    20 of Caryl's links
    10 of Bob's Links
    9 of "August 18th" Links
    480 for Digitalpoint forums
    30 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    457 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    0 of Foxy's Links
    401 for Digitalpoint forums
    23 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    85 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ Highest Positions Attained ~

    Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
    (No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

    Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    Postion #2 allinanchor: #2 - 10/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

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  12. mcdar

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    #1512
    Note I have added info on today's update regard Google's Current Backlink Update!

    The experiment page DROPPED from 3530 Backlinks reported in November's Update to 155 Backlinks reported in this current Update!!!

    No Ad Network links appear in current Update.

    Very few Sig links reported!
    - digitalpoint links dropped from 170 to 14
    - SEOChat links dropped from 12 to 9

    (more detail in Daily Update - previous post)

    Due to the large number of links reported in previous Google Update I could not go into the detail of the many links reported then for anything other than the sig links. I counted those as they were the focus of our current endeavor.

    I did note that the vast majority reported previously were mostly from the Ad Network.

    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Dec 17, 2004 IP
  13. compar

    compar Peon

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    #1513
    Compar is never rathful. Just impatient sometimes.

    Sorry Guys but I haven't been keeping up with this thread for a couple of days. If you ever think my opinion is really important you should PM me.

    I guess there is nothing wrong with this experiment at this time. The only thing I wonder about is when, or if, we will ever be able to rationalize the impact of the removal of all the signature links that Foxy and I did. For several days I seemed to be the only one who was sure that the drop in SERP placement had not been precipitated by thier removal.
     
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  14. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1514
    Hi Bob,

    The best I have been able to determine, is that BOTH the sig links AND the Ad Network links were removed around the same time.

    NEITHER the sig links nor the Network links are showing up in this latest Google Backlink Update!

    The position Drop from #4 to #10 SEEMS to be the appropriate drop for the loss of the Network Links.

    SO - Did the loss of the sig links have no effect at all OR was the effect of their loss masked by the background increase in our Contributor's links????

    What is your take on this????

    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Dec 17, 2004 IP
  15. compar

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    #1515
    I don't fucking know! :) Too many variables.

    When this latest 100 domain/one IP test is over Foxy and I could put them all back again and see what difference it makes.

    BTW it just occurred to me that this is one of the few forums without a filter that catches the "F" word. Has anybody done a search on "forum +fuck" to see where we rank?

    I just tried it. And this forum doesn't show up anywhere. There are a ton of web sites with the "F" word in the title. As a matter of fact Google returns over 5,000,000 pages for the search.

    Oh, and did I mention Merry Christmas.

    I think I must have been infected with the Anthonycea virus when I read this posting. Oh well, it had to happen sooner or later. :D
     
    compar, Dec 17, 2004 IP
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    #1516
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    ***27 DCs are NOT responding**
    ****32 DCs are NOT responding**
    *****36 DCs are NOT responding**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
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    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
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    Last 10 days

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/08/2004 [All Datacenters] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/09/2004 [22 DCs #10, 2 DC #6] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/10/2004 [22 DCs #10, 2 DC #6] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/11/2004 [22 DCs #10, 2 DC #6] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/12/2004 [22 DCs #10, 2 DC #6] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/13/2004 [All Datacenters] *****
    Postion #9 allinanchor: #2 -12/14/2004 [All Datacenters] *****
    Postion #9 allinanchor: #2 -12/15/2004 [All Datacenters] *****
    Postion #9 allinanchor: #2 -12/16/2004 [18 DCs #9, 6 DC #10] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/17/2004 [2 DCs #9, 22 DC #10] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/18/2004 [22 DCs #10, 2 DC #12] *****
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    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    105 - 11/05/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    110 - 11/09/2004
    109 - 11/10/2004
    114 - 11/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    112 - 11/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    3100 - 11/28/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3110 - 11/30/2004
    3100 - 12/09/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3290 - 12/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4280 - 12/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4270 - 12/18/2004
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    771 - 11/25/2004
    766 - 11/26/2004
    756 - 11/27/2004
    746 - 11/28/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    747 - 11/30/2004
    742 - 12/01/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    783 - 12/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #22 - 08/22/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #14 - 08/24/2004
    #19 - 08/26/2004
    Defunct: This search no longer relevant
    __________________

    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    428 - 11/21/2004
    421 - 11/25/2004
    420 - 11/26/2004
    710 - 11/29/2004
    737 - 11/30/2004
    747 - 12/04/2004
    761 - 12/08/2004
    797 - 12/10/2004
    824 - 12/15/2004
    838 - 12/17/2004
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    PR/Backlink info

    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 153 of 155)
    19 for Caryl
    16 for Bob
    65 for Foxy
    28 for Others
    14 for Digitalpoint forums
    9 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ November 25 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    3530 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 901 of 981)

    170 for Digitalpoint forums
    12 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ October 27 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    469 Backlinks
    ___________

    ~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    566 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
    20 of Caryl's links
    10 of Bob's Links
    9 of "August 18th" Links
    480 for Digitalpoint forums
    30 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    457 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    0 of Foxy's Links
    401 for Digitalpoint forums
    23 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    85 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
    ___________

    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
    ___________

    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
    ___________

    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ Highest Positions Attained ~

    Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
    (No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

    Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    Postion #2 allinanchor: #2 - 10/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    __________________
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    mcdar Peon

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    #1517
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    ***27 DCs are NOT responding**
    ****32 DCs are NOT responding**
    *****36 DCs are NOT responding**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/09/2004 [22 DCs #10, 2 DC #6] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/10/2004 [22 DCs #10, 2 DC #6] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/11/2004 [22 DCs #10, 2 DC #6] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/12/2004 [22 DCs #10, 2 DC #6] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/13/2004 [All Datacenters] *****
    Postion #9 allinanchor: #2 -12/14/2004 [All Datacenters] *****
    Postion #9 allinanchor: #2 -12/15/2004 [All Datacenters] *****
    Postion #9 allinanchor: #2 -12/16/2004 [18 DCs #9, 6 DC #10] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/17/2004 [2 DCs #9, 22 DC #10] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/18/2004 [22 DCs #10, 2 DC #12] *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/19/2004 [13 DCs #10, 6 DC #11, 5 DC #22]Note: Allinanchor #4 on 4 DCs *****
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    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    105 - 11/05/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    110 - 11/09/2004
    109 - 11/10/2004
    114 - 11/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    112 - 11/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    3100 - 11/28/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3110 - 11/30/2004
    3100 - 12/09/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3290 - 12/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4280 - 12/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4270 - 12/18/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    771 - 11/25/2004
    766 - 11/26/2004
    756 - 11/27/2004
    746 - 11/28/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    747 - 11/30/2004
    742 - 12/01/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    783 - 12/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #22 - 08/22/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #14 - 08/24/2004
    #19 - 08/26/2004
    Defunct: This search no longer relevant
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    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    428 - 11/21/2004
    421 - 11/25/2004
    420 - 11/26/2004
    710 - 11/29/2004
    737 - 11/30/2004
    747 - 12/04/2004
    761 - 12/08/2004
    797 - 12/10/2004
    824 - 12/15/2004
    838 - 12/17/2004
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    PR/Backlink info

    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 153 of 155)
    19 for Caryl
    16 for Bob
    65 for Foxy
    28 for Others
    14 for Digitalpoint forums
    9 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ November 25 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    3530 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 901 of 981)

    170 for Digitalpoint forums
    12 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ October 27 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    469 Backlinks
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    ~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    566 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
    20 of Caryl's links
    10 of Bob's Links
    9 of "August 18th" Links
    480 for Digitalpoint forums
    30 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    457 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    0 of Foxy's Links
    401 for Digitalpoint forums
    23 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    85 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
    ___________

    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ Highest Positions Attained ~

    Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
    (No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

    Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    Postion #2 allinanchor: #2 - 10/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    __________________
    Note:Google API has page at #10
     
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    #1518
    Just to point this out...

    Today the experiment page was in position #22 on 5 datacenters and was in position #4 for allinanchor on 4 datacenters.

    I have noticed a discussion titled Shakin' Em Up... in the Google section of this forum where folks are talking about big changes to their site's positions.

    Hold onto your hats!!!
     
    mcdar, Dec 19, 2004 IP
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    #1519
    Yes, mcdar, the last few days have played havoc with many people's long-held rankings. Actually, if the experiment page does lose a lot of rankings, it might be the perfect way for people to possibly figure out the new algo, since it is such a tightly-controlled page.
     
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    compar Peon

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    #1520
    Indeed they have. I have a site that has ranked in the top ten for 4 or 5 search terms for months now. With this last update every SERP placement was dropped somewhere between 20 and 40 places. And I haven't done anything to the site recently except to continue to build backlinks.

    So what the hell did Google just do? My reported backlinks didn't drop and my PR is still 6. If anyone can figure this one out they are really a genius.
     
    compar, Dec 19, 2004 IP
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