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  1. compar

    compar Peon

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    #1561
    Thanks for the clarification. I have always doubted that Google really looks at the entire C-block. I do a lot of linking and cross linking from a single C-block on my server, to sites we have designed and host, and I have always thought those link were very effective.

    For instance -- and this is related to Smryl's post -- I add a link to all new sites we host, to a list on my company page entitled "sites we host". I never submit to SEs. But this link will usually get the new site crawled and indexed within a very few days.
     
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  2. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1562
    Hi Shannon,

    I think your experience certainly weighs in on the side that signature links do contribute to search engine placement!

    What seems to be a "new" Google phenomenon is they are not updating their cached files. Oh, they may be adding to them on a daily basis BUT they are most certainly NOT purging them on a timely basis.

    As I was snooping around Google pages today I found this statement on their site to be interesting...

    (Bolding is mine)

    Now, this may have been there forever, but since Google seems to be changing or having some problems with caching I would say that we should monitor Google carefully with regard to how current our pages in Google are!

    Remember that the experimental page started dropping in the serps in late June til it finally was GONE July 31 thru August 20. (see Complete Report)

    It was quite by accident that I discovered that the cache for the page had not been updated since mid June! Once I updated the time stamp on the page, Google updated the cache of the page and we popped back up from nowhere into position #48 then the following day position #22.

    We might ride the benefit of Bob's and Foxy's sig links for a good long while or at least until Google purges the cache for those pages from it's index.

    Again, this lack of "purging" seems to be "new" because the last time the sig links were dropped Google searches revealed them gone within 14 days. It has now been 42 days since they were removed this last time.

    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Dec 28, 2004 IP
  3. compar

    compar Peon

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    #1563
    I haven't said anything to anybody yet but I also noticed that. I added some new pages to the InfoPool several days ago and Google has not cached them yet. They use to crawl and cache all my InfoPool stuff every 48 to 72 hours. Now it has been 5 or 6 days and no sign of them indexing these new pages.

    But I hasten to say Google isn't broken. They are just perfect.
     
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  4. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1564
    :D :D :D

    Yes, indeedy, Bob - Just Perfucked! :rolleyes:
     
    mcdar, Dec 28, 2004 IP
  5. compar

    compar Peon

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    #1565
    Yes I couldn't have said it better myself. I was searching for that description but didn't think of that form of the adjective. Well done! :rolleyes:
     
    compar, Dec 28, 2004 IP
  6. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1566
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    ***27 DCs are NOT responding**
    ****32 DCs are NOT responding**
    *****36 DCs are NOT responding**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/19/2004 [13 DCs #10, 6 DC #11, 5 DC #22]Note: Allinanchor #4 on 4 DCs *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/20/2004 [15 DCs #10, 5 DC #11, 4 DC #22]Note: Allinanchor #4 on 4 DCs *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/21/2004 [7 DCs #9, 10 DC #10, 4 DC #11, 3 DC #22]Note: Allinanchor #4 on 3 DCs *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/22/2004 [9 DCs #9, 13 DCs #10, 2 DCs #11]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/23/2004 [18 DCs #10, 6 DCs #12]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/24/2004 [7 DCs #8, 13 DCs #10, 4 DCs #11, 2 DCs #12]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #9 allinanchor: #2 -12/25/2004 [7 DCs #6, 2 DCs #7, 17 DCs #9]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #2 -12/26/2004 [7 DCs #6, 2 DCs #7, 17 DCs #8]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #2 -12/27/2004 [22 DCs #8, 2 DCs #9, 2 DCs #10]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #7 allinanchor: #2 -12/28/2004 [8 DCs #5, 13 DCs #7, 4 DCs #8]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #2 -12/29/2004 [8 DCs #5, 18 DCs #8] *****
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    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    105 - 11/05/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    110 - 11/09/2004
    109 - 11/10/2004
    114 - 11/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    112 - 11/20/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    4270 - 12/18/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4260 - 12/24/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4240 - 12/26/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    763 - 12/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    774 - 12/21/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    764 - 12/24/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #22 - 08/22/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #14 - 08/24/2004
    #19 - 08/26/2004
    Defunct: This search no longer relevant
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    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    797 - 12/10/2004
    824 - 12/15/2004
    838 - 12/17/2004
    924 - 12/21/2004
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    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (ALL located @ class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Number Indexed by Google
    11 - 12/20/2004
    30 - 12/21/2004
    31 - 12/22/2004
    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
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    PR/Backlink info

    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 153 of 155)
    19 for Caryl
    16 for Bob
    65 for Foxy
    28 for Others
    14 for Digitalpoint forums
    9 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ November 25 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    3530 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 901 of 981)

    170 for Digitalpoint forums
    12 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ October 27 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    469 Backlinks
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    ~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    566 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
    20 of Caryl's links
    10 of Bob's Links
    9 of "August 18th" Links
    480 for Digitalpoint forums
    30 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    457 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    0 of Foxy's Links
    401 for Digitalpoint forums
    23 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    85 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ Highest Positions Attained ~

    Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
    (No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

    Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    Postion #2 allinanchor: #2 - 10/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

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    Note:Google API has page at #8
     
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  7. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #1567
    Hi - I have been off with dial -up connections so I haven't been able to do the update with the links but I have sort of kept in touch with the posts and I think that Bob [once again] is hitting close at the truth.

    Consider this:

    from the 26 - 29/11 there was an increase in the back links from 420 to 710 ie +290
    from the 29 - 10/12 there was an increase in the back links from 710 to 797 ie +87
    from the 10 - 20/12 there was an increase in the back links from 797 to 924 ie +227

    And now there has been a large upswing in the back links in the last few days covering the period that there has been a significant movement upwards in the SERPs - sods law that I haven't been able to track them daily.

    from the 20 - 29/12 there was an increase in the back links from 924 to 1634 ie +710

    ;)
     
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  8. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1568
    We are getting things a bit muddled here...

    On 6/26/2004 the page dropped from #43 to #144
    On 7/06/2004 the page dropped from #125 to #172
    On 7/18/2004 the page dropped from #169 to #311
    On 7/31/2004 the page dropped from #315 to NOT FOUND
    On 8/21/2004 the page jumped from NOT FOUND to #48
    On 8/22/2004 the page jumped from #48 to #22

    In the Complete Report you will find at least 7 hyperlinks that go to discussions on SEO Forum threads that are focused on Google issues. The link on 8/21/2004 leads to this thread where it was pointed out that the page cache had not been updated by google since early June and that once the cache in Google was updated we quickly came back from nowhere to position #22.

    8/22/2004 we were at position #22.

    8/18/2004 Supporters started to add links from different IP Addresses.
    9/11/2004 Google Backlink Update showed several of the newly added backlinks to the page.

    9/11/2004 we were at position #17
    9/18/2004 we were at position #18 (Supporters links were at 192)

    10/12/2004 we were at position #11 (Supporters links were at 202)
    Co-op ads were added 10/12/2004
    10/27/2004 we were at position #2

    11/16/2004 Bob and Foxy remove sig links PLUS Co-op adds lost around this time
    11/16/2004 we were at position #2
    12/02/2004 we were at position #5
    12/03/2004 we dropped to postion #10 (Supporters links were at 747)

    12/17/2004 we were at position #10 (Supporters links were at 838 from 29 different IPs)
    12/17/2004 Patient adds links from 116 different IPs (but same C-block)

    12/30/2004 we are at position #8
    - Supporters - 1634 links from 29 different IPs
    - Patient - 107 links from 107 different IPs

    PERSPECTIVE:

    In last 13 days we climbed 2 positions in Google and added 903 links.

    Note: of the 903 new links 663 came from one IP address (Foxy's)

    It is of my opinion that Google is NOT given much credit to ANY of the new links in recent days!

    - Believe it or not - it has taken me nearly three hours of pouring over the data to compile this post!

    Caryl
     
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  9. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #1569
    That I can well believe - 3 hours!!!

    What is significant is that a 2 place movement is 20%

    What we do know is that during this period there has been a significant increase in the links from the original group

    What we do not know is whether it is the quantity [ie my increase] or the spread from the new 100 [as we have no up to date reports].

    However what I am now speculating is this:

    Consider the hyperbolic curve with the x-axis as the spread and the y-axis as the quantity and the curve is the "limit" of effect

    If there was a huge initial quantity there would be little effect on the Serps
    If the spread was small the same would apply
    As the spread gets larger so the quantity would be able to come into effect

    This would fall into line with that which Bob was talking about

    The threshold being the curve. :)
     
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  10. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1570
    Foxy,

    Label me totally in DENILE! As I am not ready to accept such a complicated concept at this time.

    There is evidence in other threads that Google is doing strange things right now and it is my belief that Google is NOT handling or evaluating current records as it should.

    This is why I feel that the pages current position is not being appropriately calculated.

    Another bit of evidence I have collected this morning (I've been a busy little bee) is something I happen to notice as I was working on the tools this past week or so.

    I check the results for this experiment approximately the same time every day, around 7:30 to 8:AM EST. (even though I don't always get around to updating this thread sometimes until later).

    I happen to notice on several different occassions (when working on the tools) that the experiment page was coming up in MUCH higher positions on some datacenters i.e. position #19 or #22. I would think to myself, well here we go - we're going to start dropping. BUT, the next AM, the page would be right back to where it was.

    As the result of comments in the Shakin’ Em Up thread on this forum, I decided to chart this today to see what was going on.

    Indeed, when I checked back at noon today 5 datacenters had the experiment page at position #20 - up from position #8 at 8:AM. This "flip flopping" has been going on for days now! Occasionally when I would be gathering info from the datacenters in the morning, some datacenters would drop the page entirely and it was not returned AT ALL in the results. If I just did a subsequent search we'd pop back up again.

    You can view the updated table here...

    Google is indeed screwing up!

    This is why I am so hesitant to entertain or speculate on our position and links right now.

    Caryl
     
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  11. Patient

    Patient Raider

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    #1571
    Sorry, been away for a few days. As of today there are 107 out of 116 domains indexed with the link.
     
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  12. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1572
    Hi Patient,

    Hope you have had a restful few days!

    Your report of 107 out of 116 links was reported in today's Update as well as my previous post.

    Foxy may have missed it.

    Caryl
     
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    mcdar Peon

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    #1573
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    ***27 DCs are NOT responding**
    ****32 DCs are NOT responding**
    *****36 DCs are NOT responding**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/21/2004 [7 DCs #9, 10 DC #10, 4 DC #11, 3 DC #22]Note: Allinanchor #4 on 3 DCs *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/22/2004 [9 DCs #9, 13 DCs #10, 2 DCs #11]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/23/2004 [18 DCs #10, 6 DCs #12]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/24/2004 [7 DCs #8, 13 DCs #10, 4 DCs #11, 2 DCs #12]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #9 allinanchor: #2 -12/25/2004 [7 DCs #6, 2 DCs #7, 17 DCs #9]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #2 -12/26/2004 [7 DCs #6, 2 DCs #7, 17 DCs #8]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #2 -12/27/2004 [22 DCs #8, 2 DCs #9, 2 DCs #10]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #7 allinanchor: #2 -12/28/2004 [8 DCs #5, 13 DCs #7, 4 DCs #8]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #2 -12/29/2004 [8 DCs #5, 18 DCs #8]*****
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #2 -12/30/2004 [9 DCs #5, 17 DCs #8]*****
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #2 -12/31/2004 [All Datacenters] *****
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    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    110 - 11/09/2004
    109 - 11/10/2004
    114 - 11/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    112 - 11/20/2004
    115 - 12/30/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    4270 - 12/18/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4260 - 12/24/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4240 - 12/26/2004
    4250 - 12/30/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    763 - 12/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    774 - 12/21/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    764 - 12/24/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #22 - 08/22/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #14 - 08/24/2004
    #19 - 08/26/2004
    Defunct: This search no longer relevant
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    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    797 - 12/10/2004
    824 - 12/15/2004
    838 - 12/17/2004
    924 - 12/21/2004
    1634 - 12/29/2004
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    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (ALL located @ class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Number Indexed by Google
    11 - 12/20/2004
    30 - 12/21/2004
    31 - 12/22/2004
    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
    107 - 12/30/2004
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    PR/Backlink info

    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 153 of 155)
    19 for Caryl
    16 for Bob
    65 for Foxy
    28 for Others
    14 for Digitalpoint forums
    9 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ November 25 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    3530 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 901 of 981)

    170 for Digitalpoint forums
    12 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ October 27 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    469 Backlinks
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    ~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    566 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
    20 of Caryl's links
    10 of Bob's Links
    9 of "August 18th" Links
    480 for Digitalpoint forums
    30 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    457 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    0 of Foxy's Links
    401 for Digitalpoint forums
    23 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    85 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
    ___________

    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
    ___________

    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ Highest Positions Attained ~

    Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
    (No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

    Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    Postion #2 allinanchor: #2 - 10/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

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  14. Cyclops

    Cyclops sensei

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    #1574
    Any idea how the other pages in the top 10 are doing.....are they moving around much...are they the same ones that were there at the start of this thread.

    I think it's pretty relevant to know what or where the opposition are in relation to "our" page.

    Cyclops.
     
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  15. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1575
    Hi Cyclops,

    Welcome!

    I don't have a lot of time right now to put this in a neat little table...

    But here are some links to "screen shots" and previous stuff

    June 1, 2004

    July 20, 2004

    December 31, 2004

    There are probably more but I'll have to look around

    Happy New Year Everyone!!!!

    Caryl
     
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  16. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1576
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    ***27 DCs are NOT responding**
    ****32 DCs are NOT responding**
    *****36 DCs are NOT responding**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/22/2004 [9 DCs #9, 13 DCs #10, 2 DCs #11]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/23/2004 [18 DCs #10, 6 DCs #12]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/24/2004 [7 DCs #8, 13 DCs #10, 4 DCs #11, 2 DCs #12]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #9 allinanchor: #2 -12/25/2004 [7 DCs #6, 2 DCs #7, 17 DCs #9]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #2 -12/26/2004 [7 DCs #6, 2 DCs #7, 17 DCs #8]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #2 -12/27/2004 [22 DCs #8, 2 DCs #9, 2 DCs #10]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #7 allinanchor: #2 -12/28/2004 [8 DCs #5, 13 DCs #7, 4 DCs #8]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #2 -12/29/2004 [8 DCs #5, 18 DCs #8]*****
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #2 -12/30/2004 [9 DCs #5, 17 DCs #8]*****
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #2 -12/31/2004 [All Datacenters]*****
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #2 -1/1/2005 [All Datacenters] *****
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    110 - 11/09/2004
    109 - 11/10/2004
    114 - 11/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    112 - 11/20/2004
    115 - 12/30/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    4270 - 12/18/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4260 - 12/24/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4240 - 12/26/2004
    4250 - 12/30/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    763 - 12/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    774 - 12/21/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    764 - 12/24/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #22 - 08/22/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #14 - 08/24/2004
    #19 - 08/26/2004
    Defunct: This search no longer relevant
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    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    797 - 12/10/2004
    824 - 12/15/2004
    838 - 12/17/2004
    924 - 12/21/2004
    1634 - 12/29/2004
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    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (ALL located @ class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Number Indexed by Google
    11 - 12/20/2004
    30 - 12/21/2004
    31 - 12/22/2004
    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
    107 - 12/30/2004
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    PR/Backlink info

    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 153 of 155)
    19 for Caryl
    16 for Bob
    65 for Foxy
    28 for Others
    14 for Digitalpoint forums
    9 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ November 25 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    3530 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 901 of 981)

    170 for Digitalpoint forums
    12 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ October 27 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    469 Backlinks
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    ~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    566 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
    20 of Caryl's links
    10 of Bob's Links
    9 of "August 18th" Links
    480 for Digitalpoint forums
    30 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    457 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    0 of Foxy's Links
    401 for Digitalpoint forums
    23 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    85 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ Highest Positions Attained ~

    Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
    (No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

    Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    Postion #2 allinanchor: #2 - 10/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

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  17. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1577
    Google started a PR AND Backlink update this morning!!!!

    So far, it looks like the page will go from 154 Backlinks to 264 Backlinks.

    Changes can be seen on only two datacenters right now and as I look through them I see 16 of Patient's "new" links showing up.

    I'll do an official count of Backlinks once this update starts to spread across datacenters and we are fairly certain it will "stick".

    Happy New Year - Everyone!!!!

    Caryl

    PS - You can check updating datacenters with this tool...

    Datacenter Quick Check

    -> be sure to select the "Check PR/Backlink Update" radio button.
     
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  18. classifieds

    classifieds Sopchoppy Flash

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    #1578

    Mcdar,

    How accurate is this?

    I show my site going from a PR2 to a PR4 on all but two of the servers.
    IBLs go from 401 to 893 :D

    I hope it's right ;)

    -jay
     
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  19. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1579
    Hi Jay, Welcome!!!!

    It is not a matter of being accurate. The results ARE Googles!

    Google presents it's results on any one of a total of 27 different Datacenters (the total has been as high as 60) right now. The "Datacenters" are found at the 27 IP addresses you see in the Datacenter Quick Check table first column.

    To see what I am saying, copy any of the numbers you see (ex. 216.239.53.99) and open a new browser window. Instead of typing in http://www.google.com into the address line, just paste that IP address you just copied and hit enter on your keyboard.

    You'll see that a Google window opens up.

    All you did when you entered the IP address in the address line was to specify which Google datacenter you would be querying rather than www.google.com command sending you to a random one.

    So, you see, the results ARE Google's own and are as "real" as Google gets.

    Caryl
     
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  20. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1580
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    ***27 DCs are NOT responding**
    ****32 DCs are NOT responding**
    *****36 DCs are NOT responding**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/23/2004 [18 DCs #10, 6 DCs #12]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 -12/24/2004 [7 DCs #8, 13 DCs #10, 4 DCs #11, 2 DCs #12]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #9 allinanchor: #2 -12/25/2004 [7 DCs #6, 2 DCs #7, 17 DCs #9]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #2 -12/26/2004 [7 DCs #6, 2 DCs #7, 17 DCs #8]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #2 -12/27/2004 [22 DCs #8, 2 DCs #9, 2 DCs #10]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #7 allinanchor: #2 -12/28/2004 [8 DCs #5, 13 DCs #7, 4 DCs #8]Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs *****
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #2 -12/29/2004 [8 DCs #5, 18 DCs #8]*****
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #2 -12/30/2004 [9 DCs #5, 17 DCs #8]*****
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #2 -12/31/2004 [All Datacenters]*****
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #2 -1/1/2005 [All Datacenters]*****
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #2 -1/2/2005 [All Datacenters] *****
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    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    110 - 11/09/2004
    109 - 11/10/2004
    114 - 11/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    112 - 11/20/2004
    115 - 12/30/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    4270 - 12/18/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4260 - 12/24/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    4240 - 12/26/2004
    4250 - 12/30/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    763 - 12/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    774 - 12/21/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    764 - 12/24/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    797 - 12/10/2004
    824 - 12/15/2004
    838 - 12/17/2004
    924 - 12/21/2004
    1634 - 12/29/2004
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    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (ALL located @ class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Number Indexed by Google
    11 - 12/20/2004
    30 - 12/21/2004
    31 - 12/22/2004
    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
    107 - 12/30/2004
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    PR/Backlink info

    ~ January 1 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    267 Backlinks

    18 for Caryl
    16 for Bob
    178 for Foxy
    31 for Others
    16 for Patient
    5 for Digitalpoint forums
    3 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 153 of 155)
    19 for Caryl
    16 for Bob
    65 for Foxy
    28 for Others
    14 for Digitalpoint forums
    9 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ November 25 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    3530 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 901 of 981)

    170 for Digitalpoint forums
    12 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ October 27 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    469 Backlinks
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    ~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    566 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
    20 of Caryl's links
    10 of Bob's Links
    9 of "August 18th" Links
    480 for Digitalpoint forums
    30 for SEO Chat forums
    ___________

    ~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    457 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
    14 of Caryl's links
    11 of Bob's Links
    0 of Foxy's Links
    401 for Digitalpoint forums
    23 for SEO Chat forums
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    ~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    85 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    129 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
    ___________

    ~ June 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    325 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (Details can be found in Complete Report)
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    ~ Highest Positions Attained ~

    Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
    (No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

    Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

    Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

    Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 - 10/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

    Postion #2 allinanchor: #2 - 10/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

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