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  1. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1861


    Bob,

    I do not see where my statement is in error. Below you will see a comparison of today's result for both searches - sleeping bags plural and sleeping bag singular. The same sites are in the top ten for both. However, allinanchor results would indicate that the plural of the keyword is targeted much more heavily than the singular form of the keyword.

    The experiment page had absolutely no links that targeted the singular, however, the singular form of the keyword IS contained in the plural AND I believe that most have accepted that Google IS using stemming in their algorithim.

    The results below also would indicate to me that most are targeting the plural form of the keyword and NOT the singular.

    [​IMG]

    I would like to continue this in a little different direction (from singular and plural) so I will be copying your question and this reply to the Discussion thread.
     
    mcdar, Apr 11, 2005 IP
  2. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1862
    celt,

    Unfortunately, the tool is "timing out" in times of heavy demand. Please try closing your browser window and opening the page again. This should solve your problem.

    I am working to try and solve this overload problem now, but in the meantime, thank you for your patience!

    Caryl
     
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  3. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1863
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **33 Active DCs(6 New DC Found)**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #6 allinanchor: #3 -3/31/2005 [All DCs #6]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -4/01/2005 [All DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #2 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #4 -4/02/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on 15 DCs, #4 on 18 DCs)
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #6 -4/03/2005 [8 DCs #6, 25 DCs #8]**(Allinanchor #2 on 25 DCs, #4 on 8 DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -4/04/2005 [All DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #4 on 8 DCs, #6 on 25 DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/05/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #2 on 2 DCs, #3 on 23 DCs, #4 on 8 DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/06/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on 25 DCs, #4 on 8 DCs)
    Postion #6 allinanchor: #5 -4/07/2005 [20 DCs #6, 13 DCs #7]**(Allinanchor #5 on All DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/08/2005 [28 DCs #4, 5 DCs #7]**(Allinanchor #3 on 6 DCs, #4 on 22 DCs, #5 on 5 DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/10/2005 [21 DCs #4, 12 DCs #9]**(Allinanchor #4 on 21 DCs, #7 on 12 DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/09/2005 [ALL DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #3 on 17 DCs, #4 on 16 DCs)

    Postion #3 allinanchor: #2 -4/11/2005 [17 DCs #3. 16 DCs #4]** (Note: Allinanchor #2 on All DCs)
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    50 - 4/04/2005
    83 - 4/05/2005
    81 - 4/06/2005
    95 - 4/07/2005
    86 - 4/08/2005
    105 - 4/09/2005
    109 - 4/10/2005
    62 - 4/11/2005
    __________________

    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    4270 - 3/27/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4280 - 3/30/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4290 - 4/01/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4300 - 4/06/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4270 - 4/09/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    762 - 3/25/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/03/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/09/2005
    759 - 4/10/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    606 - 1/29/2005
    457 - 1/29/20052/6/2005[/B](148 lost links from one IP) [/b]
    251 - 2/12/2005
    261 - 3/03/2005
    273 - 3/18/2005
    275 - 3/19/2005
    508 - 4/09/2005
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    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (Located on 3 different IPs within same class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Jan 20, 2005 - (moved all urls to dif server - now all 116 are on same IP + changed from Coldfusion to Java)

    Number Indexed by Google

    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
    107 - 12/30/2004
    115 - 1/2/2005
    116 - 1/21/2005
    108 - new urls & 70 old urls- 1/31/2005
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    PR/Backlink info

    ~ March 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    113 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ February 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    260 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ January 1 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    268 Backlinks - see Table of Links reported
    ___________
    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (Details can be found for this and the following in Complete Report)
    ___________

    "A nice tool that Shawn didn't write -" DISCUSSION
    __________________
    Note:Google API has page at #3
     
    mcdar, Apr 11, 2005 IP
  4. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #1864
    Caryl,

    Have you seen this tool at all?

    http://roberttaft.com/

    I've plugged in Sleeping bags and you come up number 1.

    I've also used my phrase and am also number 1.

    I've also manually done the allinanchor:sleeping bags and my term, respectively, and there's no direct correlation (that I can see). None the less, I find it interesting.
     
    Infiniterb, Apr 11, 2005 IP
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #1865
    That is an interesting tool like the -asdf filter.

    For non-sandboxed sites in seems to highlight or move to the top, the sites that have had the greatest amount of recent optimizing or backlinks. We have recently laid off while other sites have been aggressively adding links. Last go around, w/ the -asdf filter we were showing #1; 5 in the general listings. Now we are 4th in the filtered listing and a site that has been busy optimizing and adding links is #1 with the filter.

    Not only does it show non-sandboxed results, but it shows recent optimizing (new backlinks).

    I guess that tends to show that google devalues recent backlink additions in its filters.

    Dave
     
    earlpearl, Apr 11, 2005 IP
  6. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1866
    It is very curious why the results change as they do!

    Last year I tried to "tweek" a page to do a little better in the serps. It was in position #11 and I thought if I added a couple of links I could boost it to the first page - WRONG!!!

    Those additional links resulted in the page falling to the 3rd or 4th page and staying there for the duration of the season.

    This season I am back in about the same place. So this year, I created a new page to target for the same keyword and pointed ads from the co-op to it. If this new page gets sandboxed, my old page will still be there.

    Isn't that just a pitiful way to have to do business?
     
    mcdar, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  7. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1867
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **33 Active DCs(6 New DC Found)**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #5 allinanchor: #4 -4/02/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on 15 DCs, #4 on 18 DCs)
    Postion #8 allinanchor: #6 -4/03/2005 [8 DCs #6, 25 DCs #8]**(Allinanchor #2 on 25 DCs, #4 on 8 DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -4/04/2005 [All DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #4 on 8 DCs, #6 on 25 DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/05/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #2 on 2 DCs, #3 on 23 DCs, #4 on 8 DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/06/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on 25 DCs, #4 on 8 DCs)
    Postion #6 allinanchor: #5 -4/07/2005 [20 DCs #6, 13 DCs #7]**(Allinanchor #5 on All DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/08/2005 [28 DCs #4, 5 DCs #7]**(Allinanchor #3 on 6 DCs, #4 on 22 DCs, #5 on 5 DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/10/2005 [21 DCs #4, 12 DCs #9]**(Allinanchor #4 on 21 DCs, #7 on 12 DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/09/2005 [ALL DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #3 on 17 DCs, #4 on 16 DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #2 -4/11/2005 [17 DCs #3. 16 DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #2 on All DCs)

    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/12/2005 [9 DCs #3. 24 DCs #4]** (Note: Allinanchor #3 on 9 DCs, #4 on 24 DCs)
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    83 - 4/05/2005
    81 - 4/06/2005
    95 - 4/07/2005
    86 - 4/08/2005
    105 - 4/09/2005
    109 - 4/10/2005
    62 - 4/11/2005
    42 - 4/12/2005
    __________________

    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    4270 - 3/27/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4280 - 3/30/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4290 - 4/01/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4300 - 4/06/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4270 - 4/09/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    762 - 3/25/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/03/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/09/2005
    759 - 4/10/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    606 - 1/29/2005
    457 - 1/29/20052/6/2005[/B](148 lost links from one IP) [/b]
    251 - 2/12/2005
    261 - 3/03/2005
    273 - 3/18/2005
    275 - 3/19/2005
    508 - 4/09/2005
    __________________

    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (Located on 3 different IPs within same class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Jan 20, 2005 - (moved all urls to dif server - now all 116 are on same IP + changed from Coldfusion to Java)

    Number Indexed by Google

    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
    107 - 12/30/2004
    115 - 1/2/2005
    116 - 1/21/2005
    108 - new urls & 70 old urls- 1/31/2005
    __________________

    PR/Backlink info

    ~ March 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    113 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ February 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    260 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ January 1 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    268 Backlinks - see Table of Links reported
    ___________
    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (Details can be found for this and the following in Complete Report)
    ___________

    "A nice tool that Shawn didn't write -" DISCUSSION
    __________________
    Note:Google API has page at #4
     
    mcdar, Apr 12, 2005 IP
  8. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1868
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **33 Active DCs(6 New DC Found)**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #8 allinanchor: #6 -4/03/2005 [8 DCs #6, 25 DCs #8]**(Allinanchor #2 on 25 DCs, #4 on 8 DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -4/04/2005 [All DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #4 on 8 DCs, #6 on 25 DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/05/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #2 on 2 DCs, #3 on 23 DCs, #4 on 8 DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/06/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on 25 DCs, #4 on 8 DCs)
    Postion #6 allinanchor: #5 -4/07/2005 [20 DCs #6, 13 DCs #7]**(Allinanchor #5 on All DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/08/2005 [28 DCs #4, 5 DCs #7]**(Allinanchor #3 on 6 DCs, #4 on 22 DCs, #5 on 5 DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/10/2005 [21 DCs #4, 12 DCs #9]**(Allinanchor #4 on 21 DCs, #7 on 12 DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/09/2005 [ALL DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #3 on 17 DCs, #4 on 16 DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #2 -4/11/2005 [17 DCs #3. 16 DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #2 on All DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/12/2005 [9 DCs #3. 24 DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #3 on 9 DCs, #4 on 24 DCs)

    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/13/2005 [All DCs #4]** (Note: Allinanchor #3 on 15 DCs, #4 on 18 DCs)
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    81 - 4/06/2005
    95 - 4/07/2005
    86 - 4/08/2005
    105 - 4/09/2005
    109 - 4/10/2005
    62 - 4/11/2005
    42 - 4/12/2005
    106 - 4/13/2005
    __________________

    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    4270 - 3/27/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4280 - 3/30/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4290 - 4/01/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4300 - 4/06/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4270 - 4/09/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    762 - 3/25/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/03/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/09/2005
    759 - 4/10/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    606 - 1/29/2005
    457 - 1/29/20052/6/2005[/B](148 lost links from one IP) [/b]
    251 - 2/12/2005
    261 - 3/03/2005
    273 - 3/18/2005
    275 - 3/19/2005
    508 - 4/09/2005
    __________________

    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (Located on 3 different IPs within same class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Jan 20, 2005 - (moved all urls to dif server - now all 116 are on same IP + changed from Coldfusion to Java)

    Number Indexed by Google

    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
    107 - 12/30/2004
    115 - 1/2/2005
    116 - 1/21/2005
    108 - new urls & 70 old urls- 1/31/2005
    __________________

    PR/Backlink info

    ~ March 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    113 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ February 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    260 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ January 1 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    268 Backlinks - see Table of Links reported
    ___________
    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (Details can be found for this and the following in Complete Report)
    ___________

    "A nice tool that Shawn didn't write -" DISCUSSION
    __________________
    Note:Google API has page at #4
     

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  9. sadcox66

    sadcox66 Spirit Walker

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    #1869
    Yes, particularly because the backlinks from the coop are fleeting and unpredictable at best. You already know from the recent google patent information there is a penalty/loss if the the spider does not find your link on the page the next time it visits.
     
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  10. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1870
    Well the new page I put up on March 29th and the only external links pointing to the page are from the ad network.

    Today that new page is #1 in Google. We'll see how it does with those revolving ad network links.

    Caryl
     
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    sadcox66 Spirit Walker

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    #1871
    Wow, you must have a lott of weight.

    I am not having that much luck with the coop because most of my sites are new without sufficient weight.Particularly with google.

    Do post if you see wild swings in the coop weight. I suspect that is because the links revolve among high and low PR domains.
     
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  12. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1872
    sadcox66,

    No, I do not have a lot of weight - the keyword is only somewhat competitve - definately, not as competitive as for the experiment page.

    It does seem that the ad network ad flucuate a lot so this may leave my page bouncing in the serps.

    We'll see...

    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Apr 14, 2005 IP
  13. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1873
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **33 Active DCs(6 New DC Found)**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #4 allinanchor: #2 -4/04/2005 [All DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #4 on 8 DCs, #6 on 25 DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/05/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #2 on 2 DCs, #3 on 23 DCs, #4 on 8 DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/06/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on 25 DCs, #4 on 8 DCs)
    Postion #6 allinanchor: #5 -4/07/2005 [20 DCs #6, 13 DCs #7]**(Allinanchor #5 on All DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/08/2005 [28 DCs #4, 5 DCs #7]**(Allinanchor #3 on 6 DCs, #4 on 22 DCs, #5 on 5 DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/10/2005 [21 DCs #4, 12 DCs #9]**(Allinanchor #4 on 21 DCs, #7 on 12 DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/09/2005 [ALL DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #3 on 17 DCs, #4 on 16 DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #2 -4/11/2005 [17 DCs #3. 16 DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #2 on All DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/12/2005 [9 DCs #3. 24 DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #3 on 9 DCs, #4 on 24 DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/13/2005 [All DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #3 on 15 DCs, #4 on 18 DCs)

    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/14/2005 [All DCs #5]** (Note: Allinanchor #3 on 17 DCs, #4 on 16 DCs)
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    95 - 4/07/2005
    86 - 4/08/2005
    105 - 4/09/2005
    109 - 4/10/2005
    62 - 4/11/2005
    42 - 4/12/2005
    106 - 4/13/2005
    110 - 4/14/2005
    __________________

    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    4270 - 3/27/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4280 - 3/30/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4290 - 4/01/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4300 - 4/06/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4270 - 4/09/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    762 - 3/25/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/03/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/09/2005
    759 - 4/10/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
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    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    606 - 1/29/2005
    457 - 1/29/20052/6/2005[/B](148 lost links from one IP) [/b]
    251 - 2/12/2005
    261 - 3/03/2005
    273 - 3/18/2005
    275 - 3/19/2005
    508 - 4/09/2005
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    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (Located on 3 different IPs within same class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Jan 20, 2005 - (moved all urls to dif server - now all 116 are on same IP + changed from Coldfusion to Java)

    Number Indexed by Google

    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
    107 - 12/30/2004
    115 - 1/2/2005
    116 - 1/21/2005
    108 - new urls & 70 old urls- 1/31/2005
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    PR/Backlink info

    ~ March 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    113 Backlinks reported
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    ~ February 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    260 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ January 1 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    268 Backlinks - see Table of Links reported
    ___________
    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (Details can be found for this and the following in Complete Report)
    ___________

    "A nice tool that Shawn didn't write -" DISCUSSION
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    mcdar Peon

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    #1874
    Watch your Cache Dates!!!!

    As many of you know I have been also monitoring DAILY the cache date of the experiment page.

    In the past we had definately two times (June-Aug and this last January-Feb)when Google "forgot" to index this page for long periods of time. The results of this is NOT pretty.

    In late February I discovered that the cache date seemed to be "stuck" on Feb 7. By March, it remained there. So I went and opened, saved, and uploaded the page with the new time stamp.

    On March 9th Google updated the cache date and has done so daily until 4/12/05! Below are the recorded cache dates and times for April.

    Apr 1, 2005 03:54:57 GMT - (4/2/05)
    Apr 2 2005 03:22:01 GMT - (4/3/05)
    Apr 3 2005 03:29:13 GMT - (4/4/05)
    Apr 4 2005 06:03:14 GMT - (4/5/05)
    Apr 5 2005 02:46:49 GMT - (4/6/05)
    Apr 6 2005 01:44:31 GMT - (4/7/05)
    Apr 6 2005 01:44:31 GMT - (4/8/05)
    Apr 8, 2005 02:44:53 GMT - (4/9/05)
    Apr 9 2005 02:31:27 GMT - (4/10/05)
    Apr 10, 2005 02:21:11 GMT - (4/11/05)
    Apr 8, 2005 16:45:20 GMT - (4/12/05)
    Apr 8, 2005 16:45:20 GMT - (4/13/05)
    Apr 8, 2005 16:45:20 GMT - (4/14/05)


    Google not only has stopped updating BUT is using a cache from a previous date! Mind you, look at the time difference from April 8th.

    Anyways, today I opened, saved, closed and uploaded the page with the new "fresh" time stamp. We'll see if Google starts caching again on a daily basis soon.

    I will keep you all posted.

    Caryl
     
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    Cyclops sensei

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    #1875
    I don't think that comment is right, it was only a patent application and encompased a lot of other ideas as well.
    There is nothing to indicate that it has been put into practice.
     
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    mcdar Peon

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    #1876
    Cyclops,

    I agree and even go further to say that the "Patent" was NOT filed under Google but by 10 people associated with Google. If you read it carefully, you will find that it was filed to "protect" broad based ideas BUT not specific code.

    If this patent is granted, the holders will stand to profit big time if any search engine, including Google, decides to evolve into those areas covered by the patent.

    For $500. each, these ten people may have only been speculating on the future of search technology and stand to gain plenty if they are right.

    Just my 2 cents...

    Caryl
     
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    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    #1877
    Casche date is very interesting. Thanks for your hard work.

    Shannon
     
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    mcdar Peon

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    #1878
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **33 Active DCs(6 New DC Found)**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
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    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/05/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #2 on 2 DCs, #3 on 23 DCs, #4 on 8 DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/06/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on 25 DCs, #4 on 8 DCs)
    Postion #6 allinanchor: #5 -4/07/2005 [20 DCs #6, 13 DCs #7]**(Allinanchor #5 on All DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/08/2005 [28 DCs #4, 5 DCs #7]**(Allinanchor #3 on 6 DCs, #4 on 22 DCs, #5 on 5 DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/10/2005 [21 DCs #4, 12 DCs #9]**(Allinanchor #4 on 21 DCs, #7 on 12 DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/09/2005 [ALL DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #3 on 17 DCs, #4 on 16 DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #2 -4/11/2005 [17 DCs #3. 16 DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #2 on All DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/12/2005 [9 DCs #3. 24 DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #3 on 9 DCs, #4 on 24 DCs)
    Postion #4 allinanchor: #4 -4/13/2005 [All DCs #4]**(Allinanchor #3 on 15 DCs, #4 on 18 DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/14/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on 17 DCs, #4 on 16 DCs)

    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/15/2005 [All DCs #5]** (Note: Allinanchor #3 on 17 DCs, #4 on 16 DCs)
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    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    95 - 4/07/2005
    86 - 4/08/2005
    105 - 4/09/2005
    109 - 4/10/2005
    62 - 4/11/2005
    42 - 4/12/2005
    106 - 4/13/2005
    110 - 4/14/2005
    115 - 4/15/2005
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    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    4270 - 3/27/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4280 - 3/30/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4290 - 4/01/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4300 - 4/06/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4270 - 4/09/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    762 - 3/25/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/03/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/09/2005
    759 - 4/10/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    606 - 1/29/2005
    457 - 1/29/20052/6/2005[/B](148 lost links from one IP) [/b]
    251 - 2/12/2005
    261 - 3/03/2005
    273 - 3/18/2005
    275 - 3/19/2005
    508 - 4/09/2005
    __________________

    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (Located on 3 different IPs within same class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Jan 20, 2005 - (moved all urls to dif server - now all 116 are on same IP + changed from Coldfusion to Java)

    Number Indexed by Google

    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
    107 - 12/30/2004
    115 - 1/2/2005
    116 - 1/21/2005
    108 - new urls & 70 old urls- 1/31/2005
    __________________

    PR/Backlink info

    ~ March 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    113 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ February 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    260 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ January 1 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    268 Backlinks - see Table of Links reported
    ___________
    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (Details can be found for this and the following in Complete Report)
    ___________

    "A nice tool that Shawn didn't write -" DISCUSSION
    __________________
    Note:Google API has page at #5
     
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    mcdar Peon

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    #1879
    The page's cache date is still Apr 8, 2005 16:45:20 GMT - (4/15/05)!

    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Apr 15, 2005 IP
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    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    #1880
    I read over a year ago to upload your sight every day. A pain but no biggie if it is a site witih 5 pages but for large sites this seems to be a big task. Obviousy fresh date is important.

    I'm off to look at dates for which some of my pages have been cached.

    Shannon
     
    Smyrl, Apr 15, 2005 IP
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