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  1. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1901
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **33 Active DCs(6 New DC Found)**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/15/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on 17 DCs, #4 on 16 DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/16/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/17/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/18/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/19/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/20/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/21/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/22/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/23/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on 31 DCs, #4 on 2 DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/24/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/25/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)

    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/26/2005 [14 DCs #3, 19 DCs #5]** (Note: Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)

    Cache Date: Apr 17, 2005 15:32:38 GMT
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    42 - 4/12/2005
    106 - 4/13/2005
    110 - 4/14/2005
    115 - 4/15/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    110 - 4/17/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    115 - 4/20/2005
    64 - 4/21/2005
    74 - 4/22/2005
    53 - 4/23/2005
    111 - 4/24/2005
    84 - 4/25/2005
    81 - 4/26/2005

    __________________

    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    4270 - 3/27/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4280 - 3/30/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4290 - 4/01/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4300 - 4/06/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4270 - 4/09/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    762 - 3/25/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/03/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/09/2005
    759 - 4/10/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    606 - 1/29/2005
    457 - 1/29/20052/6/2005[/B](148 lost links from one IP) [/b]
    251 - 2/12/2005
    261 - 3/03/2005
    273 - 3/18/2005
    275 - 3/19/2005
    508 - 4/09/2005
    __________________

    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (Located on 3 different IPs within same class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Jan 20, 2005 - (moved all urls to dif server - now all 116 are on same IP + changed from Coldfusion to Java)

    Number Indexed by Google

    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
    107 - 12/30/2004
    115 - 1/2/2005
    116 - 1/21/2005
    108 - new urls & 70 old urls- 1/31/2005
    __________________

    PR/Backlink info

    ~ April 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    143 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ March 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    113 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ February 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    260 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ January 1 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    268 Backlinks - see Table of Links reported
    ___________
    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (Details can be found for this and the following in Complete Report)
    ___________

    "A nice tool that Shawn didn't write -" DISCUSSION
    __________________
    Note:Google API has page at #5

    [​IMG]
     
    mcdar, Apr 26, 2005 IP
  2. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1902
    Well, it has now been 7 days since the cache of the page has been stuck on Apr 17, 2005 15:32:38 GMT and once again, the page has "slipped" back to position #5 .

    My first inclination is to go in right now and update the "time stamp" in an effort to have Google update their cache of the page and return it to position #3.

    BUT - I think I will continue to monitor, for a short while anyway, to see how things progress on their own.

    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Apr 26, 2005 IP
  3. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1903
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **33 Active DCs(6 New DC Found)**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/16/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/17/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/18/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/19/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/20/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/21/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/22/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/23/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on 31 DCs, #4 on 2 DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/24/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/25/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/26/2005 [14 DCs #3, 19 DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)

    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/27/2005 [All DCs #5]** (Note: Allinanchor #3 on 31 DCs, #4 on 2 DCs)

    Cache Date: Apr 17, 2005 15:32:38 GMT
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    42 - 4/12/2005
    106 - 4/13/2005
    110 - 4/14/2005
    115 - 4/15/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    110 - 4/17/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    115 - 4/20/2005
    64 - 4/21/2005
    74 - 4/22/2005
    53 - 4/23/2005
    111 - 4/24/2005
    84 - 4/25/2005
    81 - 4/26/2005
    78 - 4/27/2005

    __________________

    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    4270 - 3/27/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4280 - 3/30/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4290 - 4/01/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4300 - 4/06/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4270 - 4/09/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    762 - 3/25/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/03/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/09/2005
    759 - 4/10/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    606 - 1/29/2005
    457 - 1/29/20052/6/2005[/B](148 lost links from one IP) [/b]
    251 - 2/12/2005
    261 - 3/03/2005
    273 - 3/18/2005
    275 - 3/19/2005
    508 - 4/09/2005
    __________________

    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (Located on 3 different IPs within same class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Jan 20, 2005 - (moved all urls to dif server - now all 116 are on same IP + changed from Coldfusion to Java)

    Number Indexed by Google

    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
    107 - 12/30/2004
    115 - 1/2/2005
    116 - 1/21/2005
    108 - new urls & 70 old urls- 1/31/2005
    __________________

    PR/Backlink info

    ~ April 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    143 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ March 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    113 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ February 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    260 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ January 1 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    268 Backlinks - see Table of Links reported
    ___________
    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (Details can be found for this and the following in Complete Report)
    ___________

    "A nice tool that Shawn didn't write -" DISCUSSION
    __________________
    Note:Google API has page at #5

    [​IMG]
     
    mcdar, Apr 27, 2005 IP
  4. Patient

    Patient Raider

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    #1904
    What is your feeling on the cache date and rankings. Is it the cause or is it the symptom?
     
    Patient, Apr 27, 2005 IP
  5. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1905
    Patient,

    The aging cache date seems to precede a drop in Google ranking.

    The big question remains - WHY does Google "forget" to update the cache?

    The aging cache date is most likely a "symptom" of something else going on. The aging cache date seems to be an "indicator" that signals a problem.

    I don't believe that the cache date, in and of itself, is the cause for the ranking decline.

    The main problem here is the sample size is too small (one page) to draw too many conclusions from.

    It is definate that in this experiment, four times in less than a years time, an aging cache date preceded a decline in rank. Updating the page's "time stamp" resulted in Google updating it's cache - which then resulted in the page returning to previous results.

    If this evidence gets others to pay closer attention to cache dates then maybe we will be able to get a better understanding of what is really occuring here.

    For me at least, when I see a page's position start to slip one of the first things I check now is the cache date.

    I don't know if I have answered your question...

    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Apr 27, 2005 IP
  6. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #1906
    So what would you suggest on getting a daily caching? I've got a PR5 page that seems to be on a 10 day cache cycle.
     
    Infiniterb, Apr 27, 2005 IP
  7. Patient

    Patient Raider

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    #1907
    You did answer my question and I agree that your opinion is the most logical i.e. the old cache date being a symptom rather than a cause.

    It is obvious that G is willing to spider the same page every day and this is presumably related to to the number of links it finds to the page as it crawls the net. Why it stops for days, weeks, or months is a mystery. Why it reverts from a newer cache to an older one is also a mystery.
     
    Patient, Apr 27, 2005 IP
  8. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1908
    Boy, this is still very much a mystery to me!

    Have you tried updating the "time stamp" by opening, saving, and re-loading to your server?
     
    mcdar, Apr 27, 2005 IP
  9. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1909
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **33 Active DCs(6 New DC Found)**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/18/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/19/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/20/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/21/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/22/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/23/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on 31 DCs, #4 on 2 DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/24/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/25/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/26/2005 [14 DCs #3, 19 DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/27/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on 31 DCs, #4 on 2 DCs)

    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/28/2005 [All DCs #5]** (Note: Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)

    Cache Date: Apr 17, 2005 15:32:38 GMT
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    110 - 4/17/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    115 - 4/20/2005
    64 - 4/21/2005
    74 - 4/22/2005
    53 - 4/23/2005
    111 - 4/24/2005
    84 - 4/25/2005
    81 - 4/26/2005
    78 - 4/27/2005
    107 - 4/28/2005

    __________________

    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    Unchanged from previous date
    4290 - 4/01/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4300 - 4/06/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4270 - 4/09/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4280 - 4/28/2005

    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    762 - 3/25/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/03/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/09/2005
    759 - 4/10/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    606 - 1/29/2005
    457 - 1/29/20052/6/2005[/B](148 lost links from one IP) [/b]
    251 - 2/12/2005
    261 - 3/03/2005
    273 - 3/18/2005
    275 - 3/19/2005
    508 - 4/09/2005
    __________________

    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (Located on 3 different IPs within same class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Jan 20, 2005 - (moved all urls to dif server - now all 116 are on same IP + changed from Coldfusion to Java)

    Number Indexed by Google

    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
    107 - 12/30/2004
    115 - 1/2/2005
    116 - 1/21/2005
    108 - new urls & 70 old urls- 1/31/2005
    __________________

    PR/Backlink info

    ~ April 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    143 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ March 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    113 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ February 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    260 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ January 1 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    268 Backlinks - see Table of Links reported
    ___________
    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (Details can be found for this and the following in Complete Report)
    ___________

    "A nice tool that Shawn didn't write -" DISCUSSION
    __________________
    Note:Google API has page at #5

    [​IMG]
     
    mcdar, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  10. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1910
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **33 Active DCs(6 New DC Found)**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/19/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/20/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/21/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/22/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/23/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on 31 DCs, #4 on 2 DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/24/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/25/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/26/2005 [14 DCs #3, 19 DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/27/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on 31 DCs, #4 on 2 DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/28/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)

    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/29/2005 [All DCs #5]** (Note: Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)

    Cache Date: Apr 17, 2005 15:32:38 GMT
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    115 - 4/20/2005
    64 - 4/21/2005
    74 - 4/22/2005
    53 - 4/23/2005
    111 - 4/24/2005
    84 - 4/25/2005
    81 - 4/26/2005
    78 - 4/27/2005
    107 - 4/28/2005
    56 - 4/29/2005

    __________________

    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    Unchanged from previous date
    4290 - 4/01/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4300 - 4/06/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4270 - 4/09/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4280 - 4/28/2005
    4270 - 4/29/2005

    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    762 - 3/25/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/03/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/09/2005
    759 - 4/10/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    606 - 1/29/2005
    457 - 1/29/20052/6/2005[/B](148 lost links from one IP) [/b]
    251 - 2/12/2005
    261 - 3/03/2005
    273 - 3/18/2005
    275 - 3/19/2005
    508 - 4/09/2005
    __________________

    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (Located on 3 different IPs within same class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Jan 20, 2005 - (moved all urls to dif server - now all 116 are on same IP + changed from Coldfusion to Java)

    Number Indexed by Google

    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
    107 - 12/30/2004
    115 - 1/2/2005
    116 - 1/21/2005
    108 - new urls & 70 old urls- 1/31/2005
    __________________

    PR/Backlink info

    ~ April 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    143 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ March 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    113 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ February 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    260 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ January 1 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    268 Backlinks - see Table of Links reported
    ___________
    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (Details can be found for this and the following in Complete Report)
    ___________

    "A nice tool that Shawn didn't write -" DISCUSSION
    __________________
    Note:Google API has page at #5

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  11. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **33 Active DCs(6 New DC Found)**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/20/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/21/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/22/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/23/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on 31 DCs, #4 on 2 DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/24/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/25/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/26/2005 [14 DCs #3, 19 DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/27/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on 31 DCs, #4 on 2 DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/28/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/29/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)

    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/30/2005 [All DCs #5]** (Note: Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)

    Cache Date: Apr 17, 2005 15:32:38 GMT
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    115 - 4/20/2005
    64 - 4/21/2005
    74 - 4/22/2005
    53 - 4/23/2005
    111 - 4/24/2005
    84 - 4/25/2005
    81 - 4/26/2005
    78 - 4/27/2005
    107 - 4/28/2005
    56 - 4/29/2005
    107 - 4/30/2005

    __________________

    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    Unchanged from previous date
    4290 - 4/01/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4300 - 4/06/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4270 - 4/09/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4280 - 4/28/2005
    4270 - 4/29/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    762 - 3/25/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/03/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/09/2005
    759 - 4/10/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    606 - 1/29/2005
    457 - 1/29/20052/6/2005[/B](148 lost links from one IP) [/b]
    251 - 2/12/2005
    261 - 3/03/2005
    273 - 3/18/2005
    275 - 3/19/2005
    508 - 4/09/2005
    __________________

    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (Located on 3 different IPs within same class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Jan 20, 2005 - (moved all urls to dif server - now all 116 are on same IP + changed from Coldfusion to Java)

    Number Indexed by Google

    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
    107 - 12/30/2004
    115 - 1/2/2005
    116 - 1/21/2005
    108 - new urls & 70 old urls- 1/31/2005
    __________________

    PR/Backlink info

    ~ April 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    143 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ March 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    113 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ February 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    260 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ January 1 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    268 Backlinks - see Table of Links reported
    ___________
    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (Details can be found for this and the following in Complete Report)
    ___________

    "A nice tool that Shawn didn't write -" DISCUSSION
    __________________
    Note:Google API has page at #5

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  12. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1912
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **33 Active DCs(6 New DC Found)**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/21/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/22/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/23/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on 31 DCs, #4 on 2 DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/24/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/25/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/26/2005 [14 DCs #3, 19 DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/27/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on 31 DCs, #4 on 2 DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/28/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/29/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/30/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)

    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -5/01/2005 [All DCs #5]** (Note: Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)

    Cache Date: Apr 17, 2005 15:32:38 GMT
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    115 - 4/20/2005
    64 - 4/21/2005
    74 - 4/22/2005
    53 - 4/23/2005
    111 - 4/24/2005
    84 - 4/25/2005
    81 - 4/26/2005
    78 - 4/27/2005
    107 - 4/28/2005
    56 - 4/29/2005
    107 - 4/30/2005
    59 - 5/01/2005

    __________________

    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    Unchanged from previous date
    4290 - 4/01/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4300 - 4/06/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4270 - 4/09/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4280 - 4/28/2005
    4270 - 4/29/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    762 - 3/25/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/03/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/09/2005
    759 - 4/10/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    606 - 1/29/2005
    457 - 1/29/20052/6/2005[/B](148 lost links from one IP) [/b]
    251 - 2/12/2005
    261 - 3/03/2005
    273 - 3/18/2005
    275 - 3/19/2005
    508 - 4/09/2005
    __________________

    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (Located on 3 different IPs within same class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Jan 20, 2005 - (moved all urls to dif server - now all 116 are on same IP + changed from Coldfusion to Java)

    Number Indexed by Google

    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
    107 - 12/30/2004
    115 - 1/2/2005
    116 - 1/21/2005
    108 - new urls & 70 old urls- 1/31/2005
    __________________

    PR/Backlink info

    ~ April 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    143 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ March 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    113 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ February 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    260 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ January 1 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    268 Backlinks - see Table of Links reported
    ___________
    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (Details can be found for this and the following in Complete Report)
    ___________

    "A nice tool that Shawn didn't write -" DISCUSSION
    __________________
    Note:Google API has page at #5

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  13. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    One thing I have found quite curious for some time now is how Google reports compar's links on a daily basis!

    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    115 - 4/20/2005
    64 - 4/21/2005
    74 - 4/22/2005
    53 - 4/23/2005
    111 - 4/24/2005
    84 - 4/25/2005
    81 - 4/26/2005
    78 - 4/27/2005
    107 - 4/28/2005
    56 - 4/29/2005
    107 - 4/30/2005
    59 - 5/01/2005

    __________________

    This daily fluctuation is incredible. I check the same datacenters every day so it isn't just a difference from datacenter to datacenter. :confused:

    Caryl
     
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  14. compar

    compar Peon

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    #1914
    Indeed! You just have to conclude that Google can even count.

    Now in fairness to the recent variation we made some changes to the InfoPool a week ago. We organized all the articles into categories and added category pages. We finished this on Friday April 22 and didn't realize until Monday April 26 that there was an error in many of the hyperlinks and many of the articles could not be found. However that doesn't explain the wild swings of the last 3 or 4 days.

    By my count the "sleeping bag" link can be found on 128 different pages in the InfoPool. Google has reported as high as 115 and that was probably correct at that time. But since then we have added the category pages and some more articles.

    I just checked and several of the new category pages were cached today. But others are not currently cached at all including the oldest category -- it's been around for several months -- and all the article that fall under this category.

    So I would say that what is really changing from day to day is the number of pages Google has cached. Why should this vary radically?
     
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  15. larysmith711

    larysmith711 Notable Member

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    I ahve a PR7 and it is on a ten day cycle as well. Funny thin is my PR4 is cached on a daily basis. :confused:
     
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  16. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    I've tried the updating the pages daily (since my primary SEO duties are on Blogger pages) and that has little effect. Maybe it has something to do with the pages that link to you...
     
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  17. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    That just makes no sense at all!!!! Neither does compar's site fluctuating by nearly 50 pages on an almost daily basis.

    A client of mine changed the title of his main page on Saturday. Yesterday (Sunday) Google updated the cache of the page. Today, when you do a search in Google the title in the results is the OLD title but viewing the cache of the page shows the new title.

    Clearly, Google "processes" information regarding a page and stores it in a separate location. Any benefit from my clients change will not be reflected in Google until Google has "processed" the new information.

    This may be where "sandboxed" sites get caught up! They are indexed. They are cached. BUT Google has not "processed" them yet. Only musing here...

    Perhaps Google just can't keep up...

    Caryl
     
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  18. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1918
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update
    **33 Active DCs(6 New DC Found)**


    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _____________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/21/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/22/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/23/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on 31 DCs, #4 on 2 DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/24/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #3 allinanchor: #3 -4/25/2005 [All DCs #3]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/26/2005 [14 DCs #3, 19 DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/27/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on 31 DCs, #4 on 2 DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/28/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/29/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -4/30/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)
    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -5/01/2005 [All DCs #5]**(Allinanchor #3 on All DCs)

    Postion #5 allinanchor: #3 -5/02/2005 [8 DCs #4, 25 DCs #5]** (Note: Allinanchor #3 on 31 DCs, #4 on 2 DCs)

    Cache Date: Apr 17, 2005 15:32:38 GMT
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    115 - 4/20/2005
    64 - 4/21/2005
    74 - 4/22/2005
    53 - 4/23/2005
    111 - 4/24/2005
    84 - 4/25/2005
    81 - 4/26/2005
    78 - 4/27/2005
    107 - 4/28/2005
    56 - 4/29/2005
    107 - 4/30/2005
    59 - 5/01/2005
    62 - 5/02/2005

    __________________

    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
    Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    Unchanged from previous date
    4290 - 4/01/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4300 - 4/06/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4270 - 4/09/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    4280 - 4/28/2005
    4270 - 4/29/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
    Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

    762 - 3/25/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/03/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    756 - 4/09/2005
    759 - 4/10/2005
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    *August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

    Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

    Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

    606 - 1/29/2005
    457 - 1/29/20052/6/2005[/B](148 lost links from one IP) [/b]
    251 - 2/12/2005
    261 - 3/03/2005
    273 - 3/18/2005
    275 - 3/19/2005
    508 - 4/09/2005
    __________________

    Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
    (Located on 3 different IPs within same class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

    Jan 20, 2005 - (moved all urls to dif server - now all 116 are on same IP + changed from Coldfusion to Java)

    Number Indexed by Google

    40 - 12/23/2004
    48 - 12/24/2004
    107 - 12/30/2004
    115 - 1/2/2005
    116 - 1/21/2005
    108 - new urls & 70 old urls- 1/31/2005
    __________________

    PR/Backlink info

    ~ April 22 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    143 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ March 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    113 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ February 3 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    260 Backlinks reported
    ___________

    ~ January 1 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    268 Backlinks - see Table of Links reported
    ___________
    ~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    155 Backlinks
    (Details can be found for this and the following in Complete Report)
    ___________

    "A nice tool that Shawn didn't write -" DISCUSSION
    __________________
    Note:Google API has page at #5

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #1919
    This is off-topic on the google cache date, but it is astonishing in view of what occurred during Feb-March how consistent the dc's are for both serps and allinanchor. On the other hand what was probably astonishing was how wacked the data centers were over that period.

    Dave
     
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  20. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #1920
    Dave,
    If you look over the Complete Report (the entire history of the page) you will see that, indeed, the Feb/Mar time period was the exception not the rule.

    Caryl
     
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