Question for those that think PR leak doesnt exist

I know ALOT of members on this forum (some well respected members) feel that PR leak is just BS, but let me ask you guys this.

Say you went and obtained 50 reciprocal links for a new site which you just launched. Alternatively, say you went and got 50 one-way links from the SAME sites.

Now, would you expect the PR of the site to be the same in both situations? IMO I hardly think so. The SEs would deem the site with 50 one-way links as far more important (and rightly so) and assign a higher PR.

What are your thoughts...

 

You need to remember, PR is all about pages, not about sites.

 

I realise that. My above example still applies, with all links pointing to the index page.

 

dcristo i agree with what you say but that only affected page would be the links page, right? otherwise the index pages should relatively have the same pr.

;-)

 

Juls - no, thats not correct. You would have less internal PR transfer which would effect the PR transferring to your home page.

 

lol dcristo ya what i meant was that it would start with the leak from the links page and then discount all of the linked internal pages and so on... but what i said wrong was that the index page pr wouldnt get changed... it would be lower.

;-)

 

Having all your outgoing links on one page, with all your incoming links going to your index page is not good linking startegy for SEo anyhow.

Look at it this way, no out going links will make the algo treat you as a honey trap (not good) Pleaty of links can end up making the algo treat you as a hub. Personally I really don't give a damn about PR leakage, as it is never a concern in my marketing plans for a client website.

 

PR is a mathematical equasion it is not assigned.

Yes it can be influenced by the internal and external link structure.

But who wants an index page with a PR of 7 that targets one or two phrases and all the other pages are 1 or maybe 2?

An equal distribution of PR across a site is much more usefull. All of them get regularly visited by all the bots thus be of maximum use to the site AND visitors.

To me sites with vastly different pr show either SEO gone mad or simply lack of understanding how the Internet works.

Would you really pay $$ to be listed in a directory or site where the main page has a PR8 and the categories struggle to gain 2?

These are the ones that presently struggle......

Expat

 

I thought PR leakage was a separate issue from the lower value of a recip link. It makes sense that a recip link is less value than a one way link, i think that is a separate "filter" to PR Leakage (if it exists).

 

1. there is no such thing as PR leak
2. one way links are not of any less value than reciprocal links -- at least not yet and probably never
3. in your hypothetical example, there would be no difference between the two pages -- they would have the same PR

 

You mean recip links are not of any less value?

I tend to think otherwise.

 

I used the recip links as an example as essentially PR leak would be caused from external links.

 

That's correct. Reciprocal links to a page are equal in value to nonreciprocal links to a page, all other things (like PR of the linking page) being equal.

So I gathered from your post. But you would be wrong, nonetheless.

And wrong here too.

 

Do you not agree on the fact there would be less PR transfer to the index page due to the external links passing PR outside the site?

 

I have also seen examples of sites linking to strong PR sites that seem to rank well, yet have fewer IBL. The winner of the nigritude ultramarine contest (one of the winners) had many outgoing links that even had the anchor text. You would think this would cause such a PR leak it would of went empty, but it did not. I believe it was PR7 at the time.

So PR leak seems to be bogus if you ask me. I even started looking for good sites to link to whether or not it was recip.

 

I agree with Debunked and Minstrel .. PR leak is BS

If it was real it would push website and webmasters to not link to each other trying to hog whatever PR they have and this would be the demise of PageRank.