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Ranking Experiment

Discussion in 'Co-op Advertising Network' started by digitalpoint, May 6, 2005.

  1. Design Agent

    Design Agent Peon

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    #81
    Just please dont post the live URL, here or anywhere else, it will have some kind of effect.
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #82
    That's an important reminder, DA.
     
    minstrel, May 11, 2005 IP
  3. Design Agent

    Design Agent Peon

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    #83
    Yep, is there anyway to edit the live ones out of this thread?
     
    Design Agent, May 11, 2005 IP
  4. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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  5. Design Agent

    Design Agent Peon

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    #85
    I have pmmed tops..
     
    Design Agent, May 11, 2005 IP
  6. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #86
    I'll need requests from the individual posters.
     
    T0PS3O, May 11, 2005 IP
  7. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #87
    Huh? Why, TOPS? The links in questions are all in this thread... just scan them and they should be easily visible...
     
    minstrel, May 11, 2005 IP
  8. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #88
    It would be censorship. We don't alter posts here because people want us to. We'll only do that if the poster requests so (or if post violates forum rules). I can see the use here but the principle stands. I'll be happy to do so but need to hear it from the poster.
     
    T0PS3O, May 11, 2005 IP
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    bloodwrath Active Member

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    #89
    DOH i did that
    i fixed what i could
    ill get the other edited:eek:
     
    bloodwrath, May 11, 2005 IP
  10. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #90
    I'm not going to debate forum policy -- that's for Shawn and the moderators tyo decide.

    However, I would note:

    1. I don't see how it could be considered censorship -- all that's required is that you find any live links to the page in question and change [ url ] to [ /url ] in the bbcode. Nothing is deleted. All that's changed is that you now have links that are not live.

    2. If it's going to make a difference, you can't wait for people to PM you. On a forum like this, it may be already too late anyway... any post in existence for more than about 10-15 minutes may well have been spidered by Googlebot. In that case, the experiment is already corrupted.
     
    minstrel, May 11, 2005 IP
  11. Design Agent

    Design Agent Peon

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    #91
    I have had 2 responses who have sorted their posts.. one left I believe.. TOPS is following the principle, not the fact in this case.
    No worries, It is almost done + the link from here (if spidered) can be 'taken into account'. It would be a bigger concern if loads of people posted on their blogs "theres this experiment and pointing to the site.
     
    Design Agent, May 11, 2005 IP
  12. l234244

    l234244 Peon

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    #92
    I fail to see how it can be classed as censorship too :eek:
     
    l234244, May 11, 2005 IP
  13. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #93
    It's pointless to go editing other people's post... regardless of *why*. This was never intended to be a "sterile environment" experiment. In fact, I'm not even tracking the results.
     
    digitalpoint, May 11, 2005 IP
  14. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #94
    OK censorship might be a strong word or even inappropriate but I just won't alter people's post or clean up their shit unless THEY request it to me OR the post violates forum rules.

    You don't get a painter to fix your neighbours bad looking door either do you?

    If Shawn is chucking loads of weight to it then how is a couple of forum links going to skew results?

    Anyway I don't want to discuss this any longer. I won't change it unless they ask me.
     
    T0PS3O, May 11, 2005 IP
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    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #95
    Has anyone here had any sites shoot up the ladder because of their forum signature? I know I haven't.
     
    Infiniterb, May 11, 2005 IP
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  17. Smyrl

    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    #97
    I have a friend that has had very bad luck with two web developers (I use that term loosely). She did not even rank for her domain name. I linked to her site from DP and did see improvement. In fact, when I dropped the link she fell. Think I have it online now.

    I ask you, what kind of a web designer would have the name of every page in site with title oscommerce?

    Shannon
     
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    bloodwrath Active Member

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    I'm not even tracking the results.

    then why have this going then?
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #99
    I'll check it in a few weeks.
     
    digitalpoint, May 11, 2005 IP
  20. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #100
    Since I've gotten some comments about this, I'll clarify a bit by what I meant.

    A forum signature link won't increase your rankings for competitive terms much. The term charity is fairly competitive and has roughly 5000 searches a day. That's not too bad. For terms that aren't very competitive, a forum signature may be all you need to rank number one for what you want. I primarily target highly competitive keywords. I know I can rank well for some lower keywords, but if it doesn't drive traffic, then it's not really worth the time unless you know people will be searching for you based on your business name. If you don't rank for that, it seems like some PR needs to be passed your way a bit (when I say you/your, I mean your friend).

    The point of this experiment is to show that the co-op can indeed increase rankings in search engines. This is true, however the real question is how well can it help sustain those rankings. As the network grows, more class-c IPs come on board, which means a wider BL distribution. Based on my research, I've noticed that in about 2 weeks after ads are approved, Google will normally give you a first page result for your term (depending on weight, of course). After this time, rankings slowly begin to slide. This was what I observed. Now, I have a pretty average amount of weight, and I target some fairly highly competitive terms, so my experience may be slightly different. So, we'll see how well this works out.
     
    Infiniterb, May 11, 2005 IP