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Ranking Experiment

Discussion in 'Co-op Advertising Network' started by digitalpoint, May 6, 2005.

  1. Dominic

    Dominic Well-Known Member

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    #141
    Today:
    Google 21
    MSN n/a
    Yahoo n/a

    The change is a big jump on google and a drop out of top 200 on yahoo.

    Of course it's early days at this stage.
     
    Dominic, May 14, 2005 IP
  2. SportsOutlaw

    SportsOutlaw Active Member

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    #142
    noticed the jump this morning as well on google. wasnt watching the other 2 rankings.
     
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  3. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #143
    Noticed the change too this morning. MSN should change within the next couple of days I'm guessing.
     
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    bloodwrath Active Member

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    #144
    what are u guys using to check the links
    i use http://www.checkyourlinkpopularity.com/
    and this is what is shows

    google 11
    yahoo 31,400
    msn 13,241
    alltheweb 29,600
    altavista 31,600

    Total 106,441
     
    bloodwrath, May 14, 2005 IP
  5. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #145
    Most use marketleap, I don't monitor the backlinks, just the serp results.
     
    Infiniterb, May 14, 2005 IP
  6. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #146
    google 11
    yahoo 29800
    MSN 14574
    Alltheweb 37200
    Altavista 36900
    Teoma 381
    AOL 10
    Alexa 13

    http://www.uptimebot.com - you can exchange links with this site PR4 at the "Our friends" pages.
     
    Arnie, May 15, 2005 IP
  7. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #147
    How about we don't post the number of backlinks (if you care about them, you can track them on your end)? :) Going to turn into a very boring thread then.

    Maybe someone can just post a chart that shows the changes once a month or something.
     
    digitalpoint, May 15, 2005 IP
  8. Dominic

    Dominic Well-Known Member

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    #148
    How about noone post the number of links, as it's completely pointless. The number of reported links beens bugger all. We are monitoring search results!
     
    Dominic, May 15, 2005 IP
  9. wendydettmer

    wendydettmer Peon

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    #149
    I don't have anything overly exciting to say about this, other then it's a neat idea and i'm interested in the results. (and this is an easy way to subscribe to the thread) :)
     
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  10. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #150
    Elizabeth Ann just threw up on you again and you're too sleep deprived to think clearly by now, right Wendy? :eek: :D
     
    minstrel, May 15, 2005 IP
  11. City2

    City2 Peon

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    #151
    This is a really good idea shawn, I will book mark this thread
     
    City2, May 15, 2005 IP
  12. City2

    City2 Peon

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    #152
    Looks like the website is OFFLINE
     
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    maha Well-Known Member

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    #153
    Just curious, how much weight was put on this keyword?
     
    maha, May 15, 2005 IP
  14. skattabrain

    skattabrain Peon

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    #154
    good call ... we need to get a grip on the thresholds here ... ie - xx,xxx of weight worked great for 1 month then sandboxed site or xx,xxx of weight and getting great serps with no penalities.
     
    skattabrain, May 16, 2005 IP
  15. skattabrain

    skattabrain Peon

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    #155
    eh ... why did we pick a site with a flash intro for a home page? we are using wwwdot-uccf.org right?
     
    skattabrain, May 16, 2005 IP
  16. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #156
    That page has virtually nothing on it for spiders... but when you think about it, maybe that makes it a better cross-SE test of what the Coop ads can and cannot do...
     
    minstrel, May 16, 2005 IP
  17. skattabrain

    skattabrain Peon

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    #157
    just so i'm clear ...

    sandbox = where all new sites only go?
    penalization = what happens to existing sites when Google removes them from high ranking serps and places them farther back?

    example ... i have sites that are older domains, 2 or 3 years ... but got an seo overhaul as well as link building campaign. on a few of the more aggressive plans (ie - coop) i seem to get separated from the serps for a while. it seems to come back, but takes a while.

    so what would you call this?

    i think if you take an old site, revamp it, build links fast (like coop) you will get the equivalent of being sandboxed. i'm pretty sure others have felt this as well ... have you?
     
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  18. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #158
    Are you saying you have seen this with one of your sites, skattabrain?

    I haven't, or at least not yet... I've been wondering if the reason some coop members think they see "penalties" and others don't might be partly an "old versus new" thing, although I suspect that many cases have nothing to do with either penalties or the coop...
     
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  19. skattabrain

    skattabrain Peon

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    #159
    sure i have ... i have 2 examples fresh in mind.

    1 in particular had a page #6 position before i took the job. as soon as i turned on coop (i was foolish and florred it) it disappeared from the first 10 pages. if use that filter trick i'm #1, tons of BL's ... #1 on yahoo and MSN ... allin____ ... all top dog. the content was good, but lacked quality titles and meta so i fixed that up as well. i'm not a keyword % counter because i don't believe in that all that much (unless it's yahoo ... but links sway yahoo easy).

    when you turn up the juice on coop to a site with few anchors you are pulling trip wires. coop needs like 60 anchors IMO to avoid negative attention from Google. if it has been normal behavior for your site for a while and you climbed out of the box, that's different. i believe that still has an effect ... just be careful not to adjust your coop weight to much.

    but to go from few links to 54,000 of weight at 10 terms ... it's risky business if you ask me.

    there are plenty of people that have encountered this and are sick of talking about it, but no one listens ... or they have the stance that "this isn't true because it never happened to me" ... or they manage 1 site.

    i think it's important that we know how much weight is being applied and to what terms.

    a better test would be to take 2 domains ... 2 different tests.

    pile the weight all at once on 1, slowly add coop weight to the other.

    but that's another story.


    and yes ... these are my findings and my opinions.
     
    skattabrain, May 16, 2005 IP
  20. skattabrain

    skattabrain Peon

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    #160
    before i get attacked for this ... let me say i should have said "i know others have".
     
    skattabrain, May 16, 2005 IP