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Stupid, un-related ads that I can't eliminate

Discussion in 'Placement / Reviews / Examples' started by cornetto, Jul 12, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hello,

    On my page
    http://www.wherecanibuyit.co.uk/planes/graupner_tipsy.htm
    I get totally unconnected ads such as "Break free from Anxiety", "Overcome depression" etc. Obviously I'd prefer Radio Control Plane adverts.

    In the past, I've always managed to improve the ads I get by two methods:
    (1) Put <strong> tags around some key words in the first couple of paragraphs.
    (2) Use the "take ads from another URL" option in AdSense setup, and put in the url of another one of my pages that gets relevant ads.

    However, on this one page I can't fix it. Could all these adverts be getting triggered by the word "Tipsy"? I can't remove it because it's the name of the plane!

    Also I've noticed that sometimes it gives good relevant ads, but it then slips back to stupid ones again later (Spam blockers, hypnotherapy, etc)

    Any tips from the experts please?
     
    cornetto, Jul 12, 2006 IP
  2. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    on your site - these minutes as seen at my location you have ONE adunit - the large rectangular showing the below ads
    now you may may say its not related to your site

    here a few views:

    people involving in any recreational activity or hobby may often do so to relief stress and relax or recover from daily work

    your site is about planes - google thinks air planes for example )

    you also have the work "tipsy" as a major keyword in second position on your site's meta title tag

    such words shift the possible ads toward certain markets - and its advertisers

    adsense always displays the highest bidders for a site
    you as author decide about keywords - you have control over all your meta tags and h1, etc titles and hence about the adsense topic being displayed

    the other side of OFF topic ads is

    in your case the keyword stress and advertises solutions to it may appeal to a greatest possible surfer share - since more people on earth suffer to some degree from fear, anxiety and stress

    I would be happy at your place to get a different adsense topic on my site - just for a change

    IF however you add 2 or more ad units for a total of 10 or so advertisers, then you may get the less expensive ads as well - Nr 5 and up

    may be some among them are directly plane related
    try by adding just for a single page load one more large ad unit
    reload the page and see who appears
    then add another large unit - and see again who appears
    stay away from clicking - just look and see

    on my own site i have seen that the first large adsense unit often has rather boring advertisers
    and the better, picture or more interesting one often are the 2nd or 3rd unit. I usually use all 3 popular formats and have different results depending on what exact formats i display on a particular page
     
    hans, Jul 12, 2006 IP
  3. cornetto

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    Hmmm, I put in a second ad unit, and it find no ads, so it fills up with the actual page contents of the google_alternate_ad_url web page I specified. It doesn't put ads there, it puts the actual page there - you can even scroll it up and down in the little adsense area. What is going on?
     
    cornetto, Jul 12, 2006 IP
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    hans Well-Known Member

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    that means Google is short on adword cusytomers for those keywords
    it also means you may have to better SEO the pages to keep neutral words like your site tilte etc OUT of the first many words in title meta tag and description metatag and better chose your keywords in descripbing your content incody as well as in head section of pages

    use common words rather than too specific words
    try google in a sandbox to see what ads appear in your selected words in titles and meta titles ...
     
    hans, Jul 12, 2006 IP
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    Try making the words you want ads for bold ,this gives better ads.
     
    gretel, Jul 12, 2006 IP
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    I think you are a little confused on this one. The "Show ads from another URL" option is for showing alternate ads. If Google doesn't have any ads to show it will use this URL to show your own ads instead of showing a PSA. It has nothing to do with ad relevancy.

    Another way to get more relevant ads is to use section targeting, see https://www.google.com/support/adsense/bin/answer.py?answer=23168&topic=8441
     
    tlainevool, Jul 12, 2006 IP
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    If you are having chronic targeting problems, contact the AdSense support team, as they may be able to help.
     
    Jenstar, Jul 12, 2006 IP
  8. cornetto

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    Ah, I was getting mixed up about "Show ads from another URL". I thought it meant that if google couldn't get enough ads by looking at the current page, it got them by looking at the text on the "another url" and deciding the content from there. I now understand that it just takes the page from the "another URL" and displays that, so that's not going to help me.

    I tried using the special html tags to tell google not to look at some parts of the page, but it didn't help.

    I'm going to do two experiments, and report back on their progress:
    (1) I'll save the whole page under a different name, and see if that helps. Maybe google has decided that this url needs certain ads. I did read on the google adsense help pages that changes to your page can take up to 2 weeks to make a difference to the ads, so they must read from a cache or something.
    (2) I'll remove all references to "tipsy" from the page, and replace them with a gif of the word "tipsy", but call it "rc_planes.gif". Cunning eh?
     
    cornetto, Jul 12, 2006 IP
  9. cornetto

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    IN-TER-EST-ING! I did my experiment number 1. I saved the page as test.html and uploaded it to the server. I then looked at the ads and BINGO, I now have sensible ads on this page. So, I think that google has already decided at some point in the past that this page needs "anxiety & depression" ads, and still serves them despite me changing the content.

    My guess is that soon googlebot will be back, and the ads on the original page will sort themselves out.
     
    cornetto, Jul 12, 2006 IP
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    I had the exact same problem too! My website about male celebrities got football ads keep coming even tho I already filtered a bunch of them already. :(
     
    squarehippies, Jul 15, 2006 IP
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    hans Well-Known Member

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    i would say football players are male celebrities and hence you get football related ads as such as are indirectly related to the celebs
     
    hans, Jul 15, 2006 IP
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    use the ad filter.
     
    mike323, Jul 15, 2006 IP