1. Advertising
    y u no do it?

    Advertising (learn more)

    Advertise virtually anything here, with CPM banner ads, CPM email ads and CPC contextual links. You can target relevant areas of the site and show ads based on geographical location of the user if you wish.

    Starts at just $1 per CPM or $0.10 per CPC.

This blending almost fooled me!

Discussion in 'Placement / Reviews / Examples' started by CalGuy, Jul 25, 2006.

  1. fatabbot

    fatabbot Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    559
    Likes Received:
    10
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    138
    #41
    i would not want my ad there.
    that's really fooling the visitor, i'm surprised that is allowed by google.
     
    fatabbot, Jul 27, 2006 IP
  2. shamess

    shamess Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,127
    Likes Received:
    25
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    185
    #42
    It says "ads by google" twice, how could it be fooling the visitor?
     
    shamess, Jul 27, 2006 IP
  3. webmonkey

    webmonkey Peon

    Messages:
    115
    Likes Received:
    1
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #43
    really nice, although I feel I been decieved
     
    webmonkey, Jul 27, 2006 IP
  4. superclick

    superclick Peon

    Messages:
    369
    Likes Received:
    6
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #44
    Nice blending but I'm not sure if it is in accordance with TOS.
     
    superclick, Jul 27, 2006 IP
  5. NoobieDoobieDo

    NoobieDoobieDo Peon

    Messages:
    1,456
    Likes Received:
    53
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #45
    I think it's done very well but I'm totally unsure if they violate the TOS.

    The blending is very good and it clearly says "ads by google" in two place. They actually took the proactive role on making a graphic and pointing out on their own that the below is an advertisment.

    my 2 cents
     
    NoobieDoobieDo, Jul 28, 2006 IP
  6. knoq2wice

    knoq2wice Member

    Messages:
    13
    Likes Received:
    2
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    38
    #46
    Keep in mind we're looking at it from the perspective of publishers, which is a much different perspective than that of a regular visitor. Try putting yourself in the shoes of a regular visitor, who doesn't know or much care about the intricacies of online advertising.

    The person comes to that page, and sees a listing of available resources, all specifically and exactly "related" to what they are looking for at that moment in time (including the contextual ad). Every other link on that page opens into a new window, showing an off-site resource, which if the user clicks on it to view, they are interested in it. From the user's perspective, that AdSense link, so long as it is accurate and on the landing page does in fact give them what the ad promised, is just as good and satisfying as every other link on that page. The user will not "accidentally" click on the AdSense link any more than they would "accidentally" click on the first listing on the page were it not an ad. They read what the ad said, liked what it promised, and they clicked it. If the page they arrive on does not succeed with the above goal of satisfying the user's expectations as well as providing ROI for the advertiser, then in this case that is either the advertiser's fault for not making a truthful ad and/or a page capable of converting the interested prospect into a lead or sale, or possibly Google's fault for improperly targetting the ad if that were the (unlikely) case. This site seems different in a sense since it involves an image, but honestly consider whether tightly integrating a block of text ads into your content or side bar so that it looks exactly like a part of your site and other nearby links styled in the exact same font/color/etc is any different. And doing that is precisely what Google recommends in their integration guides.

    The point I'm attempting to make is that it is not so important that the user perceives the ad as an ad, but that the ad is accurate and not misrepresented, and the person is not tricked into clicking it (i.e. by making it look like site navigation, concealing Ads by Google, using scripting to retarget where they meant to click, etc). If the ad truthfully informed the user of what to expect when they clicked it, and the resulting page was in fact what was promised in the ad, then the whole process worked as it should, and everyone should benefit - the user gets what they were looking for, the advertiser gets their sale or lead, and Google (and consequently we) get paid.

    If there is a single thing I could "criticize" about this site's implementation it is only in the choice of the icon (Dreamweaver - since the ad may or may not be directly related to Dreamweaver... a more generic image would be better in my opinion... even perhaps the Dreamweaver logo, but not the name), and that Google at least tends to suggest that there be a border (box or line) between the image and ad. It's also been mentioned that this site's implementation has been brought up many times for more than a year, and I've even seen in other discussions where people sent this link to Google and asked it if was within the TOS.

    Anyhow... just my 2 cents.... er well I guess that was more like 25 cents haha ;)

    Peace.
     
    knoq2wice, Jul 28, 2006 IP
  7. Lukaslo

    Lukaslo Peon

    Messages:
    751
    Likes Received:
    15
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #47
    I tried the same thing and it is working amazing !!! CHeck it out: Scripts
     
    Lukaslo, Jul 31, 2006 IP
  8. nismo

    nismo Peon

    Messages:
    359
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #48
    Wow ... looks great for the blending in Tutorialise - What Content Management Script are they using?
     
    nismo, Jul 31, 2006 IP
  9. Brian123

    Brian123 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    784
    Likes Received:
    12
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    108
    #49
    Nice blending Lukaslo. I feel things like this will be the way forward.
     
    Brian123, Jul 31, 2006 IP
  10. Lukaslo

    Lukaslo Peon

    Messages:
    751
    Likes Received:
    15
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #50
    yup it works really good for the first day ;) about 50% :D
     
    Lukaslo, Jul 31, 2006 IP
  11. detonate

    detonate Peon

    Messages:
    110
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #51
    As far as I was aware, in the terms and conditions, you are only allowed to label ads as 'Advertising' or 'Sponsored Links'. Given this, labelling ads as 'Ads by Google' is breaking the terms and conditions, even though it is descriptive. However, perhaps the publisher got permission from Google for the wording.
     
    detonate, Jul 31, 2006 IP
  12. Lukaslo

    Lukaslo Peon

    Messages:
    751
    Likes Received:
    15
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #52
    Detonate, good point ! It is true that they don't use advertising or sponsored links.. But I think that you can fool google and if something wouldn't be ok with it they would already ban them. Google discovers this type of things amazingly fast.
     
    Lukaslo, Jul 31, 2006 IP
  13. shamess

    shamess Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,127
    Likes Received:
    25
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    185
    #53
    I'm not sure, but I think the terms say something along the lines of "you can't label ads unless it's something like 'Sponsored links', etc", so I think putting "Ads by Google" is fine.
     
    shamess, Jul 31, 2006 IP
  14. Lukaslo

    Lukaslo Peon

    Messages:
    751
    Likes Received:
    15
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #54
    Here you go:
     
    Lukaslo, Jul 31, 2006 IP
  15. jacksmith

    jacksmith Peon

    Messages:
    1,013
    Likes Received:
    27
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #55
    nice blending and use of images, but your site doesn't implement the method used by the original site :) (remember, no 'ads by google' labels)

    so you cant say that THAT method is 'working amazing'
     
    jacksmith, Jul 31, 2006 IP
  16. shamess

    shamess Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,127
    Likes Received:
    25
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    185
    #56
    Hmm.. That's very inflexibile of Google. Not like them at all. xP I'm sure he could get away with his label though.
     
    shamess, Jul 31, 2006 IP
  17. nismo

    nismo Peon

    Messages:
    359
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #57
    Haha .... Google is god ...

    Does anyone know what Content Management script he is using?
     
    nismo, Aug 1, 2006 IP
  18. Lukaslo

    Lukaslo Peon

    Messages:
    751
    Likes Received:
    15
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #58
    Looks like google change policy or something... I got the same thing on my site and I got this email few hours ago about disabling my site:
     
    Lukaslo, Aug 2, 2006 IP
  19. rknuppel

    rknuppel Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    753
    Likes Received:
    7
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    153
    #59
    Lukaslo,

    Did you remove the adsense links from your site mentioned above? I didn't notice anything.
     
    rknuppel, Aug 2, 2006 IP
  20. Lukaslo

    Lukaslo Peon

    Messages:
    751
    Likes Received:
    15
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #60
    yes the site was disabled so no need to show ads anymore :p
     
    Lukaslo, Aug 2, 2006 IP