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Discussion in 'General Business' started by Knertified, Nov 9, 2005.

  1. #1
    I'm curious to see what your timeframe is per website and how you achieve 4 digit monthly recurring numbers.

    An example might be:

    1. Come up with *good* idea
    2. Design website and add Adsense/YPN(2-4 weeks)
    3. Add Donate/Subscriptions (1 week)
    4. Submit to DMOZ after 1000 uniques/day
    5. > 100/mo revenue after 2 months
    6. Repeat 20 times

    Above would me my best guess after reading these forums. I'm sure there are other things I haven't considered and wanted everyones input.
     
    Knertified, Nov 9, 2005 IP
  2. Sagewing

    Sagewing Peon

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    Wow, I wish I could do it so easily...

    For me, it's been more like this:

    1) come up with good idea
    2) find out its not as good as I thought
    3) put in adsense, etc.
    4) start making $1/day
    5) spend a year learning the little nuances of affiliate marketing..
    6) start making $10/day
    7) start getting ready to repeat what you've learned..

    well, that's as far as I've gotten! I was pretty happy to pass the 10/day average and I think I can repeat what I've learned... but, like everything else there doesn't seem to be a 'secret'. it's more like, practice and learn as much as you can :D

    Or am I missing something? What's the secret!?
     
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  3. Knertified

    Knertified Guest

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    Thats what I want to know. What am I missing here? Thanks for your reply!
     
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    ly2 Notable Member

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    lmao, exactly!
     
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    You should start with one site and when you reach your goal, then start thinking about the next one. 95% of publishers running adsense don't make $100 a month. It took a lot of work to see 4 digits, and then it starts getting a lot easier because of the knowledge you have gained along the way.

    Traffic has nothing to do with submitting or getting accepted to DMOZ - and DMOZ isn't going to make a site successful. I have several sites in DMOZ and all the visitors you'll get could ride together in a short bus. DMOZ is worth submitting to because it takes a few minutes - provides a little help with google rankings - but it isn't going to make or break any site.
     
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    Shoemoney $

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    I agree with what alot has been said. IF you make a site FOR search engines then it will be a flash in the pan at best before its deindexed or sandboxed to hell if it ever does rank well.

    Build a quality site or service that poeple are going to want to bookmark and come back to.
     
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  7. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    I would also agree... if you try to build a site with the sole purpose of trying to make a quick buck, it rarely will have any long term viability. I'm personally too lazy to market my products or websites, so I just make stuff that's cool (at least I think so), and people will find it, tell their friends and those people tell their friends, etc. Ends up being a snowball effect. And works well for the long term.

    The problem is that's not really something you can teach/learn or set out to do.
     
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    izahan Peon

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    After reading many many many postings and a few ebooks, I decided to make websites that I like, the way I like it to be. I do optimize ad placements and site layout but I am not doing any SEO.

    So far, in 2 months I went from averaging $0.20/day to $1.00/day and increasing. I am recently getting hits from google too.

    I would say that if you put a lot of work into making quick money, you will get it but it will not last.

    My personal experience has been 'Build it and they will come'. Doing blogs is an advantage I guess as I ping everytime I update.

    But if you want to do affiliate marketing, then it is different. Google for Allan Gardyne and you will be in good hands.
     
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    jeeplaw Well-Known Member

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    I'll be the devil's advocate here, although I do agree that where the true money is, is in developing quality, content intensive sites. However, here is what I have seen work for me, and others, in the past-

    -Find a search term that is relatively popular (not super popular, but good enough to build a site around)

    -grab a domain name that is similar, if not exactly, to your search term you are targetting

    -build a decent site, 10-15 articles, useful links and allow for some interaction with visitors (comment posting, adding articles, etc)

    -be just *vague* enough in your static content to plant the seed for the visitor to click around your site, hopefully some of those clicks will be towards adsense advertisers.

    -learn how, and experiment, to place your ads in a meaningful targetted way. Don't try to get around google's tos either..no need to when doing it the correct way will still earn you money.

    Rinse..repeat.
     
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  10. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    Why at 1000 uniques/day?
     
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  11. Knertified

    Knertified Guest

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    Thats true, I think i got confused when I read their terms on how they won't accept submissions for forums that have no posts. It probally doesn't matter with a normal site.
     
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    adacprogramming Well-Known Member

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    This has been a refreshing thread. After reading many other threads on the subject a guy can get to wondering if he's the only one that didn't start getting 1000 uniques during the first week and scheduling his Bahamas vacation on the second with his adsence revenue.
     
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    LOL, I agree. What I still don't understand is the life cycle of a good site. I mean some people have 10 websites, some people have 100. How much time do people actually spend creating a website. I came across a simple website yesterday from a member that had some recipes. It was a very small site with adsense integrated well. I wonder how much a simple website comes back with. Personally I would like to write some software applications because I enjoy writing custom applications and market that, not 100% adsense.
     
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    Which recipe site would that be?
     
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    That is sucktastic advice. You are suggesting they just make sites to get ad clicks..

    Not providing enough content in order to encourage ad clicks is at the very best super-shady.
     
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    jeeplaw Well-Known Member

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    I think your take on what is 'sucktastic' is 'sucktastic' in itself, lol.

    I believe that I'm providing enough information to inform the visitor of what they are looking for, however whereas the static constant could be 1200 words, I'm only providing 600-800 words, and original content at that. And the assumption that is being given is that my sites are NOT scraper sites (which they are not). Did you miss the rest of my post where I give the advice of providing actual value to the visitor? The adsense ads provides the trigger to learn more about 'xyz'. As the saying goes..you can lead the horse to water...

    Like I said, I was playing 'the devils advocate'. You go with your business model, and I'll go with mine.
     
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    Exactly. This is what it's like for almost everyone who tries to make $ on the web. It takes a lot of time, technical knowhow, writing, etc, to achieve any significant long-term business on the net.

    I have given up trying to explain internet marketing in detail to my friends. It's really something that you need to be dedicated to and have a genuine interest in, to make good money, just like any other business. Most people say "that sounds cool, I want in!" It never works out, in my experience.
     
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    Start a site that makes 0.01 a day, repeat 10,000 times...
     
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    adacprogramming Well-Known Member

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    Now here is a goal I can reach!;)
     
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