What If The Big SEs Abandon Internet 1 For Internet 2?

This is a thread that I wanted to start because it has me slightly worried. I may sound paranoid, but this a real issue that I feel needs to be discussed.

I personally believe that the government and big corporations are pissed off that so many people are able to start home based businesses and compete with the big dogs online.

Having said that, I believe Internet 2 is going to be corporated controlled, and domains will be heavily taxed and you will require licensing to start your own site. Your freedom of expression may also be restricted.

Evidence shows this is true because the UN wants to take control of the net away from the US and give it over to non democratic countries.

The best way I see the Internet falling to Internet 2 is to have the big search engines persuaded by the government to abandon Internet 1 and switch to Internet 2, leaving us stranded.

Is this fear realistic? Could it be done? Would it work? Please post your thoughts on this issue.

I think we all need to boycott internet 2 at all costs.

 

As long as there's money to be made here, the government isn't persuading anyone to do anything.

 

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(Look it up if you don't get it!)

 

MattBeard, I hate people who post stupid posts which are not relevant to the discussion at all.

If I'm "harassing or pestering you", as the definition of badger suggest, why don't you explain why?

The fact that the only thing you can do is come into the thread and post the same word over and over gain shows your lack of intelligence.

ccole1968, what you say is true, but there is more money and power to be gained from controlling and putting a lid on Internet 1 by switching everything over to an Internet 2 which is corporate controlled.

Think about it. The Internet 2 can be designed where big coporations dominate exclusively and there is no free market between them and the little guys.

 

OK, I did say that you should look it up if you didn't get it!

Try here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/11/web_two_point_naught_answers/

P.S. Also Try http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com

 

"The Government"

Which govenment? It's gonna take a whole lot of organizing a whole lot of countries - who don't agree with each other on a whole host of topics - to pull that one off.

Big companies may be peeved but I doubt too much, plus big companies profits from the real world piss all over web company profits. There's only one or two big dogs online seriously.

Government still get their taxes from whoever does the earning.

 

I guess the term government is a bit vague. What I really meant was the UN. Offline profits may very well exceed those of online profit, but remember we are dealing with a bunch of control freaks.

Its not really about the money anymore, because these big corporations have more of it than they will ever need. Its more about control and repression.

The net is the only place left where you have the freedom to express yourself in anyway you choose. The net is also the only place left where you can get "real" news about current events, not whitewashed corporate garbage.

It is because of this I believe we will see either an attempt at more regulation of the existing internet, or a sudden switch to a Internet 2 which is under full control.

 

It's not that I don't believe they might be miffed, I think it's beyond their control. A sudden switch to an "Internet 2" would cause a certain amount of civil unrest. And that's an understatement.

Kinda like only being able to view AOL content.

Anyways, I do have a 3 DVD set of David Icke videos to watch later, so maybe then I'll be more in the mood to believe it

 

No, that would be a stupid thing for a search engine to do. Then whatever search engine(s) was/were left on the Internet we use now would start gaining a lot more market share. I imagine Google, MSN, and Yahoo (and probably others) will start sites on Internet 2, but they will surely leave their sites on the Internet we use now also.

 

What you say makes sense. It doesn't make sense for them to totally abandon it.

 

I know i'm wrapping my tin foil hat a little tighter just in case!

 

Tesla;

UN can not even manage to get the membership fees owned to them by USA, how do you imagine that they can get control of anything else?

 

If we (the people) decide we're going to stay here, then Internet 2 will be filled with big corporations and curiosity seekers. The real money will still be here. And, the comment about SEs leaving Internet 1 is true. If they leave, it will just make their competitors here stronger.

And, who's going to pay for the infrastructure of Internet 2? I know I'm not because I'm not interested in being controlled for free, let alone paying to be controlled.

 

Conspiracy theories are so blindingly tiresome...

The UN has had their heads rammed so far up their own asses for so long they don't even know who's IN the UN any more. When was the last time they made a decision about anything that wasn't absolute nonsense.

 

Its good to hear other people who are willing to fight for internet 1. My fears have subsided.

 

im staying on internet 1. fuck internet 2.

corporations (+ the music industry) realized they had no control over the channels in which they can meet their clientelle and decided to create something new. the whole "more features" spin is bull crap. we have enough features on "internet 1".

 

"Hot Shots!" was far better than "Hot Shots! Part Deux"

 

Not sure about US, but the UK government encourages this type of activity. There's many organisations setup to help people starting business online. Microsoft (I'm guessing are a 'big dog') have had all kinds of laws against them from growing too big, put in place by government run organisations, to allow smaller competitors compete.

I think your points are fundamentally flawed. If Google and other search engines left 'Internet 1', it would leave about $100billion market open for anyone. Why would they do that? I'm sure alot of people would love it.

Secondly, if 'Internet 2' is going to be monitored, taxed and more expensive then why would I bother using it? I wouldn't. I don't know anyone who would. So it wouldn't work. Unless they have something worth my while, noone will consider it.

 

It was probably the decision made to give Iraq some more time, in the face of GWB wanting an invasion. Even those under a rock know how that turned out.

 

Just to be clear, it was the UN decision to give Saddam more time to comply with UN orders regarding weapons inspectors after he had previously ignored I believe it was three other ultimatums of "comply or else". Now THAT decision I'm certain must have had Saddam shaking in his boots: "Oh, no! The UN has given me ANOTHER ultimatum! Whatever shall we do?"