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Would you pay for this seo training?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by fryman, Jul 7, 2005.

  1. #1
    I always thought of SEO business as paying thousands of dollars each month to get someone do the work for you, but I just found this link
    http://www.seotoolset.com/seo/training/index.html

    They actually train you, and only for $1,500. I think it is quite affordable, and Bruce clay isn't a bad seo at all.
     
    fryman, Jul 7, 2005 IP
  2. Dominic

    Dominic Well-Known Member

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    It's a learning curve most people couldn't go from 0-100 in 2 days for. I guess if it's targeted at people already advanced in the field, it would be worth it. But you wouldn't want to shell out 1500 for a review of the basics and a closing hour of decent stuff. If you are interested, see if you can get a course overview or contact details for previous graduates.
     
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  3. focus3

    focus3 Peon

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    I Don't know, its an awful lot cheaper just to research it on the internet. Im sure we can all find the answers somewhere on this board too.
     
    focus3, Jul 8, 2005 IP
  4. Solicitors Mortgages

    Solicitors Mortgages Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't pay.
    as far as i know, regardless of SEO, the best way to promote a site is by getting anchor back links.
    no matter what you know about SEO it will not take away the HOURS required to submit your site, get link exchanges, and generally promote your site.
    Unless of course you can SEO a site with no backlinks and still pop up at no1.
     
    Solicitors Mortgages, Jul 8, 2005 IP
  5. subseo

    subseo Guest

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    IMHO these kind of courses are mostly targetted at companies who pay for their employess to learn a bit about SEO and get the "certificate". Not the kind of people you would expect to be browsing the internet at nights and learning it on their own.
     
    subseo, Jul 8, 2005 IP
  6. focus3

    focus3 Peon

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    Well arent those the best kind of people? :D
     
    focus3, Jul 8, 2005 IP
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    capebretoner Well-Known Member

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    If I earned my living online I think that it would be completely worth it. In all walks knowledge is power, and the more you know about SEO than your competitor the better.

    Myself however, since I am only a dabbler it probably wouldn't be worth it. I don't earn enough money and don't plan on growing too much to make this type of investment worth while.
     
    capebretoner, Jul 8, 2005 IP
  8. oalhajjar

    oalhajjar Guest

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    Where's the value added in his course? Everything they're going to "teach you" can be found on the Internet. Blogs, forums, and Google is all you need. And the course is most likely outdated (will they tell you about Bourbon? probably not).

    I did it (started web development at the end of last year and took a website to the 2nd page of Google within 8 months for a highly competitive term then sold it.).

    Granted if your time is worth more than $1,500 (big corporate guys) then it'll be worth it. But none of us on here are the big corporate guys so there's no need to waste your money like that.
     
    oalhajjar, Jul 8, 2005 IP
  9. kalius

    kalius Peon

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    Here is my seo tutorial I expect the right payment be send to my paypal account:
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    Spend the 1,200 buying links/paid directories, spend 290 in articles. spend 10 on lunch.
     
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  10. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    So why do kids go to school? Heck, everything they're going to teach them can be found on the net...
     
    fryman, Jul 8, 2005 IP
  11. focus3

    focus3 Peon

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    We send them to school so they can get off of the computer and experience an "in-person" social life:D
     
    focus3, Jul 8, 2005 IP
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    One of the reasons that classes exist is because a lot of people aren't motivated enough to sit down and find everything themselves. They don't want to go read tons of blogs or forum posts. They just want the relevant information fed directly to them by somone they consider an expert. It's a good option for people who don't want to "waste time" or people who just need the info now.

    While we're on the topic of paid training... besides the Bruce Clay course has anyone looked into:
    Stomping the Search Engines by Brad Fallon ($300) - Hours of CD based instruction
    SEOBook by Arron Wall ($80) - Constantly updated SEO ebook

    Just curious if anyone's tried any of these.
     
    Bazkaz, Jul 8, 2005 IP
  13. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    You can find thousands of similar training sites.. but are they worth it? I have never heard about fallon or wall... but Bruce Clay... well, just do a search for "search engine optimization" at google.
     
    fryman, Jul 8, 2005 IP
  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Bruce Clay's site was one of the first I came across when deciding to learn about SEO. Still have some direct links in my bookmarks to some of his pages.

    You "can" find all sorts of articles on the web. But do the ideas they suggest work? How outdated are they? I see suggestions all the time. There's no way to implement them all. If I had the opportunity to take a class from someone reputable, where I know what I'm getting is going to work, vs. hundreds of thousands of articles, suggestions and tips floating out on forums and wondering which works, I'd go for the class. Time = money. If you have less of one, you utilize the other.

    There may be lots of tips, suggestions and articles on the web, but finding what really works is like finding a needle in a haystack.
     
    GTech, Jul 8, 2005 IP
  15. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    I agree 100%. I've been pissed off several times here thanks to posts of people inventing all kind of illogical theories... like that clown that even invented a codename "charlie" for the recent yahoo update and started posting all kind of BS about it.
     
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  16. The K Monster

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    Wow, what an interesting thread. If I may, let me give my two cents:

    The Matrix. This is what the world of SEO is. The frigg'n Matrix. There is no magic recipe. Only theories.

    Make sure you can afford the time and Money. Most importantly, the time invested.
     
    The K Monster, Apr 13, 2006 IP
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    If i had the money I would... you'd surely get it back quickly and without the normal learning curve....
     
    Zoned, Apr 13, 2006 IP